Looking for points and distributor cap
12-05-2003, 08:54 PM
#1
Le Mans Master
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Looking for points and distributor cap
Hi All,
Anyone know where I can locate heavy duty GM points and dual window distributor cap OTHER THAN THE ACCEL STUFF AT ECKLERS?
I searched on the web but only found standard points and single window distributor cap.
Also looking for this item:
Accel Dual Pont Distributor RACE Series #37100
Accel Dual Pont Distributor RACE Series #37100. Distributor has Externally Adjustable Hi-rpm points, located in a sealed Dust & Water resistant compartment, Adjustable Mechanical Advance, ROLLER Caged Bearing Shaft SUPPORT to Stabalize at Hi-Rpms, All ALUM Housing and with a BRONZE Gear.
Dep
Anyone know where I can locate heavy duty GM points and dual window distributor cap OTHER THAN THE ACCEL STUFF AT ECKLERS?
I searched on the web but only found standard points and single window distributor cap.
Also looking for this item:
Accel Dual Pont Distributor RACE Series #37100
Accel Dual Pont Distributor RACE Series #37100. Distributor has Externally Adjustable Hi-rpm points, located in a sealed Dust & Water resistant compartment, Adjustable Mechanical Advance, ROLLER Caged Bearing Shaft SUPPORT to Stabalize at Hi-Rpms, All ALUM Housing and with a BRONZE Gear.
Dep
12-05-2003, 09:27 PM
#2
Team Owner
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
lars gave me part numbers for Echlin points and condensor that have worked great. (Sold at Napa). I was very unhappy with the cheap AC Delco distributor cap. It was black (the right color) but very lightweight. I liked the Summit heavy duty cap. MJ
12-05-2003, 09:39 PM
#3
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (MNJack)
Mark: Went to Napa yesterday and they had ONE set of the points (part #CS786P, Condenser #RR175) The cap they no longer make with Echelin as the maker. The guy said if I could get the Accel part number he could get me that cap, since Echelin is hooked up with Accel. Does Summit make a dual window cap and can you give me the part number? That would be great!!!
Dep
Dep
12-05-2003, 09:57 PM
#4
Instructor
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
Dep,
Go back to NAPA and see if these numbers are still good....they still show on the website.
CS-7860 Heavy-duty Points
RR-1750 Heavy-duty Condenser
RR-1650 Heavy-duty Cap
RR-1670 Heavy-duty Rotor
If they don't have them in stock, they should be able to order them for you and have them by the next day (in most cases). I think you will like the quality....
Just for the record, I ran a NAPA parts store for years....back in the "good-ole-days".
Go back to NAPA and see if these numbers are still good....they still show on the website.
CS-7860 Heavy-duty Points
RR-1750 Heavy-duty Condenser
RR-1650 Heavy-duty Cap
RR-1670 Heavy-duty Rotor
If they don't have them in stock, they should be able to order them for you and have them by the next day (in most cases). I think you will like the quality....
Just for the record, I ran a NAPA parts store for years....back in the "good-ole-days".
12-05-2003, 10:01 PM
#5
Safety Car
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
Dep, Accel part number 8134 for the regular colored (tan) Accel dual window cap (fits standard GM distributor). 8135 for black. Both are cap/rotor combos. Yep, I have a catalog... :lol:
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...&part=acc-8135
I know that Accel also sells 32oz ("hi perf") and 48 oz ("race") points, but I can't find the part numbers.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...&part=acc-8135
I know that Accel also sells 32oz ("hi perf") and 48 oz ("race") points, but I can't find the part numbers.
12-05-2003, 10:50 PM
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Flareside)
Mallory makes a dual point system..... complete with tachdrive for the mechanical tachs......
[Modified by Guru_4_hire, 10:50 PM 12/5/2003]
[Modified by Guru_4_hire, 10:50 PM 12/5/2003]
12-05-2003, 10:50 PM
#7
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Flareside)
Martin: All the parts were there EXCEPT for the cap. They called up their headquarters and were told it was discontinued back in the 80's. Where was the website where you found this???
Joe: Thanks for the part numbers! Weird, I have the new Summit catalog and can't find those things listed anywhere!!!
Joe: Thanks for the part numbers! Weird, I have the new Summit catalog and can't find those things listed anywhere!!!
12-05-2003, 10:52 PM
#8
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Guru_4_hire)
Guru: Unfortunately the Mallory distributor doesn't allow you to adjust points with the cap on :(
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12-05-2003, 10:57 PM
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
Even with the other caps? they have alot of caps?
12-05-2003, 11:11 PM
#10
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Guru_4_hire)
Have to have GM points to be able to adjust with the cap on. Only Accel and Chevy made distributors like that. I have a vintage 1962 327/340 horse distributor on the way that has dual points. I need to get the stuff to equip it though. Ecklers wants a dang arm and leg (as in $50) for a cap and rotor.
So I was looking for suitable alternatives.
Dep
So I was looking for suitable alternatives.
Dep
12-05-2003, 11:14 PM
#11
Race Director
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
I have the dual window Cap! In fact several new, Holley and OEM GM :thumbs:
Standard Ignition in their Blue Streak line has the points, available in most auto parts stores. #DR2270XP. :smash: :cheers:
[Modified by Ironcross, 11:58 PM 12/5/2003]
Standard Ignition in their Blue Streak line has the points, available in most auto parts stores. #DR2270XP. :smash: :cheers:
[Modified by Ironcross, 11:58 PM 12/5/2003]
12-05-2003, 11:24 PM
#13
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (redvetracr)
Nope...no joke. I will run a dual point distributor with an Accel Super coil and an MSD 6AL.
Dep
Dep
12-06-2003, 12:02 AM
#15
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (redvetracr)
Dep, have you looked at a calendar lately?? Next month is 2004 not 1964!!
...redvetracr
...redvetracr
Ever try to bump start a car with a low battery and electronic ignition?
Points are good to 8000+ RPM easy with the right set. They are simple and inexpensive to replace and set correctly. It's easy to carry spare parts.
An electronic ignition with less than about 9 volts can NOT be bump started.
When an electronic ignition quits it gives NO warning whatsoever.
Without complex electrical equipment it's impossible to analyze what the problem is. I'll make the concession of the MSD 6AL box because of the multiple spark and rev limiter. Beyond that....I'll stick with what I'm comfortable with and trust.
Dep
12-06-2003, 12:04 AM
#16
Race Director
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
I wont give my points up! :lol:
:iagree:
Dep, have you looked at a calendar lately?? Next month is 2004 not 1964!!
...redvetracr
Have you ever had problems with an electronic ignition? Have you ever been stranded when a module conked out? Do you get a warning when an electronic ignition quits? Have you ever tried to FIX an electronic ignition?
Ever try to bump start a car with a low battery and electronic ignition?
Points are good to 8000+ RPM easy with the right set. They are simple and inexpensive to replace and set correctly. It's easy to carry spare parts.
An electronic ignition with less than about 9 volts can NOT be bump started.
When an electronic ignition quits it gives NO warning whatsoever.
Without complex electrical equipment it's impossible to analyze what the problem is. I'll make the concession of the MSD 6AL box because of the multiple spark and rev limiter. Beyond that....I'll stick with what I'm comfortable with and trust.
Dep
...redvetracr
Have you ever had problems with an electronic ignition? Have you ever been stranded when a module conked out? Do you get a warning when an electronic ignition quits? Have you ever tried to FIX an electronic ignition?
Ever try to bump start a car with a low battery and electronic ignition?
Points are good to 8000+ RPM easy with the right set. They are simple and inexpensive to replace and set correctly. It's easy to carry spare parts.
An electronic ignition with less than about 9 volts can NOT be bump started.
When an electronic ignition quits it gives NO warning whatsoever.
Without complex electrical equipment it's impossible to analyze what the problem is. I'll make the concession of the MSD 6AL box because of the multiple spark and rev limiter. Beyond that....I'll stick with what I'm comfortable with and trust.
Dep
12-06-2003, 12:23 AM
#17
Race Director
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (Dep)
In a word "NO" I have been using a factory GM TI distributor with an MSD coil and MSD box forever, and have only recently switched to a MSD dual pickup distributor, dual boxes and dual coils. BUT hey if points floats your boat the same as a NON roller camshaft "go for it" and "I hope that works out for you"
...redvetracr
PS: I bet "rocker shafts" are out of the question also??
...redvetracr
PS: I bet "rocker shafts" are out of the question also??
12-06-2003, 12:29 AM
#18
Le Mans Master
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Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (redvetracr)
I have had GM modules quit for absolutely no reason. Had a Ford brain box quit for no reason. Points give you a warning when they are going bad.
Rocker shafts? No way. Pedestal rockers for me. It was good enough for the L-88 and LS-7...I think I can live with them. To each his own, of course :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Dep
Rocker shafts? No way. Pedestal rockers for me. It was good enough for the L-88 and LS-7...I think I can live with them. To each his own, of course :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Dep
12-06-2003, 01:08 AM
#20
Race Director
Re: Looking for points and distributor cap (redvetracr)
The L88, ZL1, and LS7`s all got by without fancy rocker arms and roller camshafts. Hell, if you want to make a Chrysler out of it, get one. Shafts are stock on those engines. The only way to beat a Chrysler is with another Chrysler or one of the aluminum Chrysler clones. :lol: http://www.nitroalley.net/images/Puffer2.jpg http://www.nitroalley.net/images/Puffer3.jpg http;//www.nitroalley.net/images/borsch_willieInPuffer.jpg
I Think "IS" is a better word :lol:
I think the key word here is "WAS"!!