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Old 11-11-2022, 02:41 PM
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Hey there. I am in the middle of a Borgeson steering conversion. I am to the point of collapsing the steering column so the new steering box will fit. I had a piece of wood on the end of the shaft and have been hitting it with a hammer. The motor is not in so I am able to get good solid hits. It seems to move in a little and then bounce right back out. Any tips?
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Maybe it's already collapsed?
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Originally Posted by ignatz
Maybe it's already collapsed?
No its not. Its in the same position as it was when it was attached to the factory gear box. It hasn't moved. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Are you using a BFH?
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Originally Posted by rcread
Are you using a BFH?
Nope and I am thinking that is the problem. I am seeing that there may be a plastic shear pin inside the shaft that needs to be broken. Do you know if this is true?
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On my '68 the lower steering shaft bearing was in terrible shape/rusted to the steering shaft where it went thru the firewall. The inner race of the bearing was seized onto the steering shaft and would not allow the bottom part of the shaft to move/collapse.
I had to rremove the entire column assembly and replace the old bearing so everything would "co-operate".

Let's hope you don't have to remove the column...try spraying some rust penetrating fluid up into the area where the firewall mount is located.
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
On my '68 the lower steering shaft bearing was in terrible shape/rusted to the steering shaft where it went thru the firewall. The inner race of the bearing was seized onto the steering shaft and would not allow the bottom part of the shaft to move/collapse.
I had to rremove the entire column assembly and replace the old bearing so everything would "co-operate".

Let's hope you don't have to remove the column...try spraying some rust penetrating fluid up into the area where the firewall mount is located.
Wow what a terrible situation. I hope that's not the problem. I will take your advice on penetrant. I hit it once and will spray more tomorrow. Thanks for the good advice.

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I have a 70 tilt and tell when I took it apart someone welded the. 2 shaft together
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Originally Posted by bobby70
I have a 70 tilt and tell when I took it apart someone welded the. 2 shaft together
I have seen that has happened on rebuilt. I am hoping my oem is not welded. Yikes!!!!
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If only our Vette’s could talk, then they could tell us what has been done to them in the past!
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Originally Posted by How Are You
If only our Vette’s could talk, then they could tell us what has been done to them in the past!
Atrocities! My ‘71 has many. Not from me but previous “experts”. The ‘71 would say, “Thanks for returning my essence to some resemblance of proper Vette!” 🫣✌🏻

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My 73 column collapsed when I separated the column and the steering box to remove the rag joint and I was just prying the two apart using a flat blade screwdriver.
I’ve read several threads where people had issues collapsing their column and needed to really pound on it to get it to collapse or like Doorgunner who had to remove it to get it done.

Ignatz is also correct by asking if it was already collapsed.
Its possible that the column was collapsed by a prior owner during a repair or replacement of the rag joint and the column was damaged, rusted or welded.
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I pulled my column, supported the lower flange, and was able to collapse the column, but not before some errant hits damaged the splines, which needed to be repaired. I then replaced the lower column bushing.

Anyway, here's a recent cautionary tale of how not to do it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-borgeson.html
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Rcread was correct. I wasn't using a big enough hammer. I put wood over the shaft to protect the threads and then beat the hell out of it. About 5 or 6 solid hits and it started to move. Thanks to all that had suggestions for me.

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