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Old 12-24-2018, 08:47 AM
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Hey guys

Got the starter motor off yesterday!
Now there is a big hole with a cog in it... Think it's from the gear-box.

As said in another post I'm cleaning my engine to paint it.

1) Do I have to mask the entire hole? Is it bad when there leaks some water in there? (see picture)



2) What is the small hole on the bottom? (see picture)


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Old 12-24-2018, 09:07 AM
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On the first pic it's the flex plate ,and yes I would mask it off ,second pic is a drain hole. You're engine is corporate blue same as my 77 .
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I don't think there is a water tight design/situation there with the starter and that might explain the hole (to drain). Wouldn't want a deluge of water in there. And I would definitely mask it off when prepping and painting too.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Many folks leave that dust cover off completely and drive in the rain/snow etc. That hole is to allow whatever moisture that gets in there in normal use a way to get out.

Have at it.

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Old 12-24-2018, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
I wouldn't worry about it. Many folks leave that dust cover off completely and drive in the rain/snow etc. That hole is to allow whatever moisture that gets in there in normal use a way to get out.

Have at it.

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I’d mask it off before painting because the flex plate and converter would look goofy with overspray on one section, but water and cleaner won’t do it any harm.

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Old 12-24-2018, 09:58 AM
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I havent run dust covers in decades..a litte paint wont hurt anything there the starter covers it anyways.
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Personally, I feel the ‘dust covers’ are a safety item that should always be reinstalled on the car.
The teeth on the flywheel are as sharp as a buzz saw and can do some serious damage to you or some unsuspecting critter under your car- Not to mention the damage that could happen to the car or an innocent bystander should a rock or other debris get in there and get shot out like a bullet. Don’t ask me how I know.
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Mercruisers have a channel cut in the flywheel cover (bellhousing to car people). It is designed so that flywheel teeth pump water out of that area. So, if it can handle bilge water up to the starter, it won't be hurt by a hose or power washer. The starters? They don't like salt water so much...
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Originally Posted by ezobens
Personally, I feel the ‘dust covers’ are a safety item that should always be reinstalled on the car.
The teeth on the flywheel are as sharp as a buzz saw and can do some serious damage to you or some unsuspecting critter under your car- Not to mention the damage that could happen to the car or an innocent bystander should a rock or other debris get in there and get shot out like a bullet. Don’t ask me how I know.
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Seriously? I have to ask how you know......never seen a rock thrown from one......anyone or anything under there is already in big trouble....

I left them off to allow heat to escape.....

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Old 12-25-2018, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Seriously? I have to ask how you know......never seen a rock thrown from one......anyone or anything under there is already in big trouble....

I left them off to allow heat to escape.....

JIM
Way back when roads were unimproved, the "dust" shield was called a "gravel guard."

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Originally Posted by ezobens
Personally, I feel the ‘dust covers’ are a safety item that should always be reinstalled on the car.
The teeth on the flywheel are as sharp as a buzz saw and can do some serious damage to you or some unsuspecting critter under your car- Not to mention the damage that could happen to the car or an innocent bystander should a rock or other debris get in there and get shot out like a bullet. Don’t ask me how I know.
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So I can just take the shield off without damaging something?
Then I can get at the backside of the oil pan and paint it there.
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You can take the shield off to paint but personally I’d reinstall it when you’re done.

Drive a car on a gravel or crappy secondary road and you’re asking for trouble.
Ever get your shin or ankle shot at by a weed wacker projectile?
Same concept just a whole lot worse.
Just sayin’
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Motors in marine applications often see a couple inches of water in the bilge and that water flows around and under the motor often splashing up on the flywheel cover.
You won’t damage anything if this area gets wet.
Old 12-29-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ezobens
You can take the shield off to paint but personally I’d reinstall it when you’re done.

Drive a car on a gravel or crappy secondary road and you’re asking for trouble.
Ever get your shin or ankle shot at by a weed wacker projectile?
Same concept just a whole lot worse.
Just sayin’
Can it be that it is (slightly) attached to the transmission pan with sealant? Does the shield use a gasket? If so I would rather leave it in place.

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Originally Posted by Novusuhu
Can it be that it is (slightly) attached to the transmission pan with sealant? Does the shield use a gasket? If so I would rather leave it in place.
It could be but not from the factory. There is no gasket. It is just a shield and that is it. Not meant to be water tight at all.
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I am no expert and don’t know about all engine appplications, but I’ve never seen a gasket or any sealant used.
The cover or shield is there for a reason, more than likely to keep dirt and debris out to the flywheel teeth which need to be clean when they engage with the starter gear.

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