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Old 05-14-2017, 05:15 PM
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I've been having a run-on problem on the 75 for a week or so. Pull the alt wires and it shuts down. This is on a brand new, not rebuilt, alternator. The old alt was ok, just old. Since this was a new unit
I didn't have to core. Took the new alt back, told them it was back feeding and they gave me another one. Took it home---no good. Still running on. Put on old alt---problem gone.
Try returning this new one another time? Don't have any proof it's backfeeding except what I tell them. I really don't mind changing alts but how many chances do you give these guys?
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1 Your old one connects the same way?
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Quit buying junk at "The Zone".....
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Croaker. Yep same as it ever was.
Other guy. I don't buy parts at "the zone". This is a reputable, natuonwide parts house. The old alt I got from them is 7 years old and still works like a champ.
Thanks for the help.
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I purchased one about four years ago and then replaced it twice under warranty. Current one is three years old now. Also purchased from a national parts retailer.

until you get a good one is my answer

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Is it a new Chinese alternator or a new AC-Delco alternator?
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How many in a batch can be bad? All?
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If it were me and I had a functioning alternator, I would purchase a rebuild kit for it and rebuild it myself.



The only things that typically wear out on a functioning alternator are the bearings and brushes. Shouldn't take more than an hour to change them out, 30 minutes if you've done it before.

Good luck... GUSTO
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Some MSD ignitions need a diode in one of the wires to the alternator. MAybe you need one.
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Thanks for all the replies and advice! I'll check into a diode and I think I will kit the new one just for grins and see what happens.
Thanks again.
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Bad fusible link?
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As above, if you run and msd (or some electronic ignitions) you can have a run on issue if you don't have a diode in the lamp feed to the alternator. I had to do this on my Vette when I put in an MSD dizzy/coil/6al in place of the hei. I also had to do it on my f250 when I installed an electronic dizzy in place of the original points dizzy, and fed the ignition from a relay.
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Jegs sells a rebuild kit for under $40 , it has everything in it. Part number 10140. T
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Some MSD ignitions need a diode in one of the wires to the alternator. MAybe you need one.
Yup this is the problem, pay 50c for it and use the forty bucks on something else
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Very interesting. Diode prevents 'back-feeding', I assume.

Do the MSD installation instructions describe the need for that diode? I would think that little 'issue' would have a big, bold RED note box on the instructions!
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It doesnt do this with the old alt. installed, just the new one correct?
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Very interesting. Diode prevents 'back-feeding', I assume.

Do the MSD installation instructions describe the need for that diode? I would think that little 'issue' would have a big, bold RED note box on the instructions!
Yes they do-- that's how I found out about it.. And it stated that it was not needed in all applications.

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Very interesting. Diode prevents 'back-feeding', I assume.

Do the MSD installation instructions describe the need for that diode? I would think that little 'issue' would have a big, bold RED note box on the instructions!
Diodes only let current flow in one direction and not in the other. Think of it as an electrical check valve.

I have an MSD 6al box but I don't remember installing a diode and I don't have the run-on issue. My 6al has been installed for 15 years. Good to be me I guess.

OP - I'd just rebuild what you have. Cheap and easy.
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Some MSD ignitions need a diode in one of the wires to the alternator. MAybe you need one.
The diode only allows current to flow in one direction.
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The diode is usually only required if you have a charge light indicator, as opposed to an ammeter or a voltmeter.







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