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Old 10-25-2015, 09:11 PM
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This is what I keep on my car after playing with the Powermaster.

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-1319-n...sdr0031-l.aspx
Old 10-25-2015, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOT77
I've used two of those starters on each size flexplate 153/168
That's correct, fits both ring gears.....those aftermarket starters {powermasters} are converted 4 cyl starters.

You will really like this, they are modified OE 4 cyl Chrysler and the GM S-10 is a late model
Old 10-25-2015, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ykf7b0
Can you give me specifics? Which s-10 starter am I looking for? Which engine? Which year? I new to this chevy stuff. Thanks!
im running a s10 starter in my 76 vette 350 engine and 350 trans 97 through 99 4.3L auto trans 4x4 i spent about 100 bucks for it at advanvce auto
Old 10-25-2015, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by George Ries
im running a s10 starter in my 76 vette 350 engine and 350 trans 97 through 99 4.3L auto trans 4x4 i spent about 100 bucks for it at advanvce auto
Thanks! I appreciate that!!!
Old 10-25-2015, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ddawson
This is what I keep on my car after playing with the Powermaster.

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-1319-n...sdr0031-l.aspx
Thanks but after reading some reviews on these dbelectrical starters I'm skeptical of their durability. I'm sure yours is giving good service or you wouldn't be recommending it. Thanks again!!!
Old 10-25-2015, 10:58 PM
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I'm embarrassed to ask, but what is the advantage of a 'mini' starter, compared to stock?

Thanks
Old 10-25-2015, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by drspencer
I'm embarrassed to ask, but what is the advantage of a 'mini' starter, compared to stock?

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If using headers the mini starter gives much more room and the larger stock starters tend to suffer from heat soak rendering them inoperable usually after a short while.
Old 10-25-2015, 11:25 PM
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Mini Starters weigh about 8 pounds I think. The 68 L36 used to eat a reman every year or so. I bought a Summit house brand mini when they came out. Dang! After installation, I kissed the key to check the wiring. Dang thing fired right up! So easy to install (you can clock the body). And powerful. One of the best mods ever, in my opinion.
Old 10-25-2015, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Keryk
Mini Starters weigh about 8 pounds I think. The 68 L36 used to eat a reman every year or so. I bought a Summit house brand mini when they came out. Dang! After installation, I kissed the key to check the wiring. Dang thing fired right up! So easy to install (you can clock the body). And powerful. One of the best mods ever, in my opinion.
What does it mean to 'clock' the body?

Any advantage to using a mini in a stock 350/270?

Thanks
Old 10-26-2015, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ykf7b0
Can you give me specifics? Which s-10 starter am I looking for? Which engine? Which year? I new to this chevy stuff. Thanks!
I meant the powermaster, if I rem correctly I had to clock the starter a bit to clear the block so I could use the correct holes for one of the flexplates.

edit: FYI I have one on my C3 & C4
Old 10-26-2015, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drspencer
I'm embarrassed to ask, but what is the advantage of a 'mini' starter, compared to stock?

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Gear reduction = more torque, and in a smaller package.
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Originally Posted by BOOT77
I meant the powermaster, if I rem correctly I had to clock the starter a bit to clear the block so I could use the correct holes for one of the flexplates.

edit: FYI I have one on my C3 & C4
My predicament is obviously not the norm. The 9100 just aint going to work for my application. I'm giving Powermaster a call this morning and hopefully gain a better understanding regarding my delimma. I'm thinking the 9200 might be for me because in pictures it resembles closely the big Delco that is on the car now, especially the nose and staggered bolt hole mounting. I have a 168 tooth starter ring but I believe the 153 is much more common on these small blocks.

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Old 10-26-2015, 11:35 AM
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Do you know how to clock the starter?
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Originally Posted by BOOT77
Do you know how to clock the starter?
I have too much gap between starter pinion and flexplate ring gear. This gap in which I'm referring is axially. I have a scenario that even Powermaster has never dealt with and says the 9200 will not cover the distance either. It possibly out of spec factory machining tolerances. I know how to clock the starter and would clock it if it would make a difference. I will keep you posted.

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Old 10-26-2015, 01:16 PM
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If you mean the throw/extension of the gear, then I'd say your starter is defective. I had a identical ebay starter where it wouldn't retract enough, even after shimming the body back from the mounting plate of the starter.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ykf7b0
I have too much gap between starter pinion and flexplate ring gear. This gap in which I'm referring is axially. I have a scenario that even Powermaster has never dealt with and says the 9200 will not cover the distance either. It possibly out of spec factory machining tolerances. I know how to clock the starter and would clock it if it would make a difference. I will keep you posted.
It sounds like both you and now Powermaster are really missing the obvious. If you have a staggered bolt mounting pattern on their now (which I have also) then you have to replace it with a starter with a staggered bolt mounting pattern. The 9100 will not work, but the 9200 should fit fine if for a 168 tooth flywheel (which I have also). Just google pictures of the two or go on Summit and compare. The staggered bolt mounting pattern easily sticks out a good 1.5 inches from the bolt locations. Your block, tranny, flywheel, all standard stuff. Nothing special here.

Looks like correct Powermaster part number is 3510 (stock size) or 9526 or 9612 mini's.

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Old 10-26-2015, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiftrider08
It sounds like both you and now Powermaster are really missing the obvious. If you have a staggered bolt mounting pattern on their now (which I have also) then you have to replace it with a starter with a staggered bolt mounting pattern. The 9100 will not work, but the 9200 should fit fine if for a 168 tooth flywheel (which I have also). Just google pictures of the two or go on Summit and compare. The staggered bolt mounting pattern easily sticks out a good 1.5 inches from the bolt locations. Your block, tranny, flywheel, all standard stuff. Nothing special here.

That's kinda why I posted the vid I can only assume he is using the hole that is too far back if it's not defective. Still I think he should be able to use the correct holes if he clocks it.
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Look at the difference in the starter mounting pads/patterns. The OP is trying bolt on an in-line mount starter where a staggered mount starter goes. That won't work. Clocking will not change the mounting pads/patterns.

Staggered 9526


Staggered 9200


Inline 9100 like the OP has
Old 10-26-2015, 06:29 PM
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Look at the vid that bock and blocks I've used had both patterns, you don't have to change what already is!


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