Buy an AIM Trolls (New Years Resolution)
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Burning Brakes
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Buy an AIM Trolls (New Years Resolution)
I've been reading through lots of old threads trying to learn a few things and invariably one or two experts always post up the old "Buy an AIM" response to questions asked. Well I have an AIM as a matter of fact I have three of them for three different year ranges.
And believe it or not sometimes the AIM is actually inconclusive, down right wrong or very hard to see or read. Or maybe just maybe one of the 30,000 members here just doesn't have one (heavens forbid).
I'm curious as what prompts these people to log onto the forum read a post read through all the suggestions and post an answer like "Buy an AIM it will be the best investment you make" ? The poor guy asking the question just needs an answer in a somewhat short period of time and some scholar posts this up? Seems like they wait around just waiting to pounce on someone to "Buy an AIM". Like the door to door AIM salesman.
So as a New Years resolution. Those of you that don't have a real suggestion, answer, follow up question or definitive answer try not to let your fingers type "A"-"I"-"M". I know its really hard and I really worried about where to post this, thought general, but then most of you live in this forum. So lets all have a happy new year and no more Buy an AIM posts!
And believe it or not sometimes the AIM is actually inconclusive, down right wrong or very hard to see or read. Or maybe just maybe one of the 30,000 members here just doesn't have one (heavens forbid).
I'm curious as what prompts these people to log onto the forum read a post read through all the suggestions and post an answer like "Buy an AIM it will be the best investment you make" ? The poor guy asking the question just needs an answer in a somewhat short period of time and some scholar posts this up? Seems like they wait around just waiting to pounce on someone to "Buy an AIM". Like the door to door AIM salesman.
So as a New Years resolution. Those of you that don't have a real suggestion, answer, follow up question or definitive answer try not to let your fingers type "A"-"I"-"M". I know its really hard and I really worried about where to post this, thought general, but then most of you live in this forum. So lets all have a happy new year and no more Buy an AIM posts!
#2
Burning Brakes
Ya know, sometimes there might be a propensity of some to be quick with a recommendation to buy an AIM and maybe they could relax their trigger finger a bit, BUT, if someone is going to buy an older Vette, and wants to maintain, repair or modify the car, an AIM with a factory service manual can answer an awful lot of questions, accurately. Let's face it, rarely do the cars only need one thing fixed, and if you're new to these cars, these are valuable resources, particularly to a new owner.
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Burning Brakes
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Ya know, sometimes there might be a propensity of some to be quick with a recommendation to buy an AIM and maybe they could relax their trigger finger a bit, BUT, if someone is going to buy an older Vette, and wants to maintain, repair or modify the car, an AIM with a factory service manual can answer an awful lot of questions, accurately. Let's face it, rarely do the cars only need one thing fixed, and if you're new to these cars, these are valuable resources, particularly to a new owner.
LOL so your saying "Buy an AIM"? to a buy an AIM Rant? LOLOLOL you made my day!
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If you don't have one, well..........
I actually have two, the original paper version and the CD
I actually have two, the original paper version and the CD
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If you're going to work on your own 'vette, you should have an AIM. This is what your rant sounds like, metaphorically:
"Some people want to hammer nails, but don't own a hammer. I am sick and tired of people telling them that they should buy a hammer!"
If you want to hammer nails, you should have a hammer. If you want to work on your 'vette, you should have an AIM.
On the other hand, I do agree that some folks are a little glib about it. "Where the heck is the jack?" "Go buy an AIM." That's not cool, just tell him where the jack is. Then maybe recommend buying an AIM.
Scott
"Some people want to hammer nails, but don't own a hammer. I am sick and tired of people telling them that they should buy a hammer!"
If you want to hammer nails, you should have a hammer. If you want to work on your 'vette, you should have an AIM.
On the other hand, I do agree that some folks are a little glib about it. "Where the heck is the jack?" "Go buy an AIM." That's not cool, just tell him where the jack is. Then maybe recommend buying an AIM.
Scott
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Burning Brakes
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If you're going to work on your own 'vette, you should have an AIM. This is what your rant sounds like, metaphorically:
"Some people want to hammer nails, but don't own a hammer. I am sick and tired of people telling them that they should buy a hammer!"
If you want to hammer nails, you should have a hammer. If you want to work on your 'vette, you should have an AIM.
On the other hand, I do agree that some folks are a little glib about it. "Where the heck is the jack?" "Go buy an AIM." That's not cool, just tell him where the jack is. Then maybe recommend buying an AIM.
Scott
"Some people want to hammer nails, but don't own a hammer. I am sick and tired of people telling them that they should buy a hammer!"
If you want to hammer nails, you should have a hammer. If you want to work on your 'vette, you should have an AIM.
On the other hand, I do agree that some folks are a little glib about it. "Where the heck is the jack?" "Go buy an AIM." That's not cool, just tell him where the jack is. Then maybe recommend buying an AIM.
Scott
Last edited by micks69; 12-29-2013 at 10:18 PM.
#8
I see lots of questions that end up not getting answered at all because the answer is easily available in the AIM.
Just sayin'.
People should get an owner's manual too.
And read the stickies.
And do a search.
Just sayin'.
People should get an owner's manual too.
And read the stickies.
And do a search.
#9
Drifting
Most of the questions I have are regarding very specific performance issues or other non OEM items. I too grow tired of hearing 'buy an AIM'. However, Id like to ask what the AIM provides that 1) a chiltons manual wont and 2) what a google search reveals
Im not bashing the AIM, I just dont want to spend money for information that seems to be readily available. Can anyone give me a honest, non biased opinion of an AIM (For a guy who does all his own work? I feel most wrenching is common sense and I usually only need the manuals for very specific references)
Im not bashing the AIM, I just dont want to spend money for information that seems to be readily available. Can anyone give me a honest, non biased opinion of an AIM (For a guy who does all his own work? I feel most wrenching is common sense and I usually only need the manuals for very specific references)
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Safety Car
I agree with you on this one. Most of the time it may be a newbie that does not know the AIM exists. But in the meantime they are working on their car and could use some help. Maybe until their AIM arrives.
But why not answer their questions first, provide some insight, and then add that the AIM may have additional information that would be useful in working on a 30-40 year old car.
kdf
But why not answer their questions first, provide some insight, and then add that the AIM may have additional information that would be useful in working on a 30-40 year old car.
kdf
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It's not just he AIM thing, there are many other trolls who think they are experts on engines, oil etc, that will turn on any simple question, mostly from unsuspecting noobies but the trolls are bi-partisan, the noobies just open themselves up more often. I for one have virtually stopped posting questions on this board since the responses seem to average 80/10/10
80% Sarcastic Trolls
10% Reply but not correct or not on topic
10% answer with some level for reasonable response to the actual question
It is much easier just to do a search, read the GM materials and start taking it apart.
80% Sarcastic Trolls
10% Reply but not correct or not on topic
10% answer with some level for reasonable response to the actual question
It is much easier just to do a search, read the GM materials and start taking it apart.
#12
Burning Brakes
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Most of the questions I have are regarding very specific performance issues or other non OEM items. I too grow tired of hearing 'buy an AIM'. However, Id like to ask what the AIM provides that 1) a chiltons manual wont and 2) what a google search reveals
Im not bashing the AIM, I just dont want to spend money for information that seems to be readily available. Can anyone give me a honest, non biased opinion of an AIM (For a guy who does all his own work? I feel most wrenching is common sense and I usually only need the manuals for very specific references)
Im not bashing the AIM, I just dont want to spend money for information that seems to be readily available. Can anyone give me a honest, non biased opinion of an AIM (For a guy who does all his own work? I feel most wrenching is common sense and I usually only need the manuals for very specific references)
My point exactly. Since you don't have an AIM let me tell you should have one (snickering in background).
If you did have one you would quickly realize that the illustration which are what really help look like they are drawn by 8th graders with pencils that that break up every 1/8th inch so you have to extrapolate where the line would actually go. Unless you really need the torque value of the interior trim screws that is.
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#13
Burning Brakes
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I like to roam the Chevelle forums, Z28, LS1 forums because I like Chevy's and contrary to popular belief, corvettes are mostly chevy's. Never do any posts on those forums recomend to the OP to buy a manual. Just sayin.
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I have only had 2 Corvettes over the years. I always work on all my vehicles. Never let anyone touch them as far as repairs go.
I have never even heard of an AIM until I came to these forums. I had to look it up. I figured it must be a top secret Corvette thing that was only privy to the people here on these forums. I was a little disappointed when I found out that it was just a picture manual and not the gospel to all cars.
I don't know how anyone ever was able to repair these vehicles without an AIM.
I have never even heard of an AIM until I came to these forums. I had to look it up. I figured it must be a top secret Corvette thing that was only privy to the people here on these forums. I was a little disappointed when I found out that it was just a picture manual and not the gospel to all cars.
I don't know how anyone ever was able to repair these vehicles without an AIM.
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I just finished a 4.5 year project resto-modding a '74 I saved from a pine tree infested salvage yard. First Corvette and first time restoring a car to this magnitude. One of the first things I bought was the AIM. (As so frequently requested LOL)
In the 4.5 years I spent on this car, I actually tried to use that waste of paper and $20 I spent on it several times. Actually I did think it was kinda cool to see how much leakage a Vette could withstand from a water spray booth from the factory. That was pretty much what I got from it. That was after I spent countless days with sticky notes making my own index for it...
I suppose if you did not take a thousand pics like I did or have a short memory like I have, an AIM could in a slight way help assemble some random part...But as stated above the lines are blurry or the part # I actually needed was cut off and I still had to ask on this wonderful site a simple question...
So whenever I see someone post a question and the first reply is "Buy The AIM", my thought is always what AIM stands for....
Always. In. Menstruation.
In the 4.5 years I spent on this car, I actually tried to use that waste of paper and $20 I spent on it several times. Actually I did think it was kinda cool to see how much leakage a Vette could withstand from a water spray booth from the factory. That was pretty much what I got from it. That was after I spent countless days with sticky notes making my own index for it...
I suppose if you did not take a thousand pics like I did or have a short memory like I have, an AIM could in a slight way help assemble some random part...But as stated above the lines are blurry or the part # I actually needed was cut off and I still had to ask on this wonderful site a simple question...
So whenever I see someone post a question and the first reply is "Buy The AIM", my thought is always what AIM stands for....
Always. In. Menstruation.
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My point exactly. Since you don't have an AIM let me tell you should have one (snickering in background).
If you did have one you would quickly realize that the illustration which are what really help look like they are drawn by 8th graders with pencils that that break up every 1/8th inch so you have to extrapolate where the line would actually go. Unless you really need the torque value of the interior trim screws that is.
If you did have one you would quickly realize that the illustration which are what really help look like they are drawn by 8th graders with pencils that that break up every 1/8th inch so you have to extrapolate where the line would actually go. Unless you really need the torque value of the interior trim screws that is.
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As a rookie, I find the A** useful....and the maintenance manual useful also. (I always read through the maintenance manual/glance at the A** before I work on my car..............OR ASK A QUESTION)
Plus.......I don't like to ask all those newbie questions that some members have already answered 500 times (out of respect for the members).
I have seen the "jack question" and thought "Really".....but then, I know a guy who doesn't know where his vehicle jack is....(that's where that thing he learned in the 1st grade would come in handy).
So....thanks for answering my questions/advising me to get an owner's manual/advising me to get a maintenance manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes)/ advising me to get an A** (so I would have a clue as to what you guys are talking about).
EDIT: And I need to remember that some members spend their days behind a desk....and changing the printer ink cartridge is an undertaking.
Plus.......I don't like to ask all those newbie questions that some members have already answered 500 times (out of respect for the members).
I have seen the "jack question" and thought "Really".....but then, I know a guy who doesn't know where his vehicle jack is....(that's where that thing he learned in the 1st grade would come in handy).
So....thanks for answering my questions/advising me to get an owner's manual/advising me to get a maintenance manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes)/ advising me to get an A** (so I would have a clue as to what you guys are talking about).
EDIT: And I need to remember that some members spend their days behind a desk....and changing the printer ink cartridge is an undertaking.
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