Dan H.

me too.
I don't care that they are $10 for the one time a year it gets changed. Still trying to break a 1000 miles in a summer..........

billcarson

i have used fram filters for as long i can remember,i only leave them in for a max 4 months and run synthetic in all the cars i service,i have never had an engine failure in 40 years of servicing all mine and the family's cars.i do not work for or sell fram filters.on my intrigue the fram filter is an exposed media style with no shell.never saw any decomposition.i removed my valve covers to do a valve adjustment and could not believe how clean my engine was.here are shots of the head and valve cover as removed.

Vette5.5

I've used my share of Frams over the years, without any problems. Some rag on them, because of some internal cardboard gasketing, but really not in a place that matters. Honestly don't use them anymore, as for a few more bucks, can get something better. Watch the major parts store ad's, as last year got a 5 quart jug of Castol Edge and K&N filter for $30 bucks from Advance. More recently, 5 quart jug of Pennzoil Platinum and K&N filter for $33 bucks from Autozone. A $10 Shell gas card too.

MotorHead

I use the Fram HP4 filter there high performance version

Spocc

i had that same question...

zwede

Wix. I got sold on them after I cut one apart and looked at the construction.

For the people who use Fram: Cut one apart and then tell me you will continue using Fram.

noonie

The regular Baldwin B6 cellulose has a 12 micron absolute.
The Baldwin B6-HPG is the same except with spun glass media like the PF35L but with a micron rating of 6.
Both the Baldwins are full size and hold a quart of oil. 2 quart are available.


That filter has the same specs as the Baldwin B279


There is always a controversy between flow and micron rating, the finer the filtering the lower the flow.
My concern is that with too fine a rating, the oil gets bypassed by the filter adapter which is rated at 7 to 10psi differential.
Consensus is that it bypasses the filter altogether a lot of the time.
No easy way to test for that.
That's why I opted for the higher micron rating, but with the 20psi differential bypass. At least the oil will hopefully be filtered all the time. Ferrari and Porsche spec that filter.
I also switched to Mobil1 0w-40 recently to help the flow situation a bit.

Here is part of the newer standard for filter testing the manufactures supposedly have switched to. It's sort of confusing, but at least it's a standard guide.

billcarson

i will cut mine open after the usual 4 month service and check it out.very curious to see how it holds up internally.i may be getting by due to my quick oil changes or use of synthetic oil.

Paul L

The 1794 is quite long and holds two US quarts; the 1061 only one US quart.

gcusmano74

The 1794 is long enough to be even with the bottom of the stock oil pan. It was used on medium (school bus sized) trucks, C60 and the like. The 1061 is somewhat shorter. It was used on one ton pickups.

AdamMeh

Wix is my preference. Good quality and easy to find at most auto parts stores.

I have to ask - are the ones who said they choose a filter based on the color being serious?

Adam

billcarson

i can only speak for myself and say ,"no".orange and black do look nice together though.if that filter looks degraded when i cut it i will switch and consider myself lucky.

69small block

amsoil makes a good filter

texas jim

Your first answer is the ONE.. Wix is the best filter you can get, no doubt. In all the cranes I run and the skytraks, we use Wix. The cranes cost millions of dollars a piece and they don't take chances.GO w/ Wix.

Spocc

thank-you Paul & the rest of the crew here

this has made me realize , all the care, polishing & frequent oil/filter changes etc don't mean nothing if the oil filter fails

sometimes a cheap part from a far-off land is a good deal - not so for oil filters

Pete.

Brcmpbl

This might be a silly question...but if I was going to use one of these filters, would I also use a bit more oil than normal because the filter holds more? I think the answer might be yes, but I ask dumb questions all the time so I see no need to stop now. I'd like to try this filter if I can find a couple at the local GM dealer...they seem to have lots of older stock around.

Rich's'78

Yes, the truck-length filter is a bit longer and holds more oil.

gcusmano74

Much more important than any extra oil volume is the fact that the larger filters have more filtering area. So the pressure drop across the filter is always less than the smaller filters. As I said before, the NAPA 1794 (made by Wix) is so large that it probably will never go into bypass mode, and you will get 100% of your oil filtered, 100% of the time.
Part B of that is, when you are changing your oil, fill the new filter almost to the top BEFORE you install it. That way, you don't run on zero oil pressure for any length of time on initial startup, while the filter is filling up.
Use the markings on your dipstick to adjust your oil level.

1BAD80

I run AC # PF-932 2 qt. and can order from any good part's shop.
Cost around $12.00

There are a few others that cross reference to it.

Brcmpbl

Nice tech, thanks.