Help needed w/ my “other” Chevy (fuel starvation)
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Drifting
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Help needed w/ my “other” Chevy (fuel starvation)
I have a 1977 Camaro that sat up for a couple of years. Recently, I replaced the old gas w/ fresh, new plugs and had it running for about 20minutes. Now, I can’t get fuel up to filter (right before the carb).
I attached a hand held vacuum pump downstream BEFORE the engine’s mechanical pump (in other words, I applied vacuum to the fuel line, before it reaches the fuel pump). With 20 inches of vacuum I get no fuel from the tank.
(1) I removed the gas cap to ensure I would have no vacuum issues.
(2) I don’t know if the charcoal canister is involved here. I believe it is disconnected from the carb
(3) I don’t know anything about the fuel pickup innards. Is there a sock, filter etc? Would there by anything that would block the flow this much so suddenly? I believe the stock fuel pump only provides about 5 PSI. I don't see a reason why the fuel shouldn’t flow, especially with 20” of vacuum applied.
(4) I’m not crazy about this option, but would there be any issue with blowing compressed air (as little as possible) into the fuel line back toward the tank? Yes, I know, fuel is always dangerous – just thinking about options.
Thanks in advance.
I attached a hand held vacuum pump downstream BEFORE the engine’s mechanical pump (in other words, I applied vacuum to the fuel line, before it reaches the fuel pump). With 20 inches of vacuum I get no fuel from the tank.
(1) I removed the gas cap to ensure I would have no vacuum issues.
(2) I don’t know if the charcoal canister is involved here. I believe it is disconnected from the carb
(3) I don’t know anything about the fuel pickup innards. Is there a sock, filter etc? Would there by anything that would block the flow this much so suddenly? I believe the stock fuel pump only provides about 5 PSI. I don't see a reason why the fuel shouldn’t flow, especially with 20” of vacuum applied.
(4) I’m not crazy about this option, but would there be any issue with blowing compressed air (as little as possible) into the fuel line back toward the tank? Yes, I know, fuel is always dangerous – just thinking about options.
Thanks in advance.
#2
Melting Slicks
Sounds like the sock may have deteriorated and some sediment broke loose and got into the line. I would remove the sender and in the process change the rubber lines and do like you suggested (blow the line out backwards). That little amount of gas won't be much of a fire hazard as long as you empty the tank beforehand.
#3
"That little amount of gas won't be much of a fire hazard as long as you empty the tank beforehand."
I believe it would be MORE of a hazard because less fuel in the tank means more air/oxygen in the tank and under the 'right' conditions that could be explosive. I suggest the OP talk to a shop that replaces gas tanks and get advice. They probably have nitrogen on hand to 'inert' the space in the tank as they pump out the gas before replacing the tank.
I believe it would be MORE of a hazard because less fuel in the tank means more air/oxygen in the tank and under the 'right' conditions that could be explosive. I suggest the OP talk to a shop that replaces gas tanks and get advice. They probably have nitrogen on hand to 'inert' the space in the tank as they pump out the gas before replacing the tank.
#4
Melting Slicks
"That little amount of gas won't be much of a fire hazard as long as you empty the tank beforehand."
I believe it would be MORE of a hazard because less fuel in the tank means more air/oxygen in the tank and under the 'right' conditions that could be explosive. I suggest the OP talk to a shop that replaces gas tanks and get advice. They probably have nitrogen on hand to 'inert' the space in the tank as they pump out the gas before replacing the tank.
I believe it would be MORE of a hazard because less fuel in the tank means more air/oxygen in the tank and under the 'right' conditions that could be explosive. I suggest the OP talk to a shop that replaces gas tanks and get advice. They probably have nitrogen on hand to 'inert' the space in the tank as they pump out the gas before replacing the tank.
#5
To the OP: if the tank is full, by all means blow the line backwards. After that, pump the gas out of the tank so you can see the condition of the inside / sock. Always electrically 'bond' the tank and receiver and ground the assembly to prevent the possibility of accidental ignition of the vapours.
Last edited by Rich's'78; 02-23-2012 at 05:27 PM.
#6
Team Owner
OH, the stories I could tell about welding and gas tanks, nothing stupid, but yes, precautions....such as filling the tank with argon first, and then maybe washing it out and dry in the sun for a day or so, then fix the rust hole....what is totally stupid is the EPA jumping on junkyards for selling used GAS TANKS of all things....like it was some kind of world ending device to put a used gas tank in a car....some 25 years ago I got a deal outta a J/Yard I knew the guys pretty well, so for 20 bux I got a 26 gallon Caddy tank for my Lemans/GTO.....properly vented so it would not collapse when that 462" engine demanded fuel.....