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Old 09-16-2011, 12:20 AM
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With ethanol being added to our gasolines, and the damage is does to the fuel system over time, what options do we have to minimize the effects of the ethanol being added. I've hear Marvel Mystery Oil...add 1oz per gallon of fuel. Will that help? What else can we do????
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I've been reading on this too. There's another additive I've heard about, called Soy Ultra, that's supposed to protect the rubber elements in your fuel system against the ethanol.
http://www.schaefferoil.com/soy-gasoline-additive.html
Also, any old rubber lines should be replaced with newer teflon lined hose that is ethanol resistant.
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Originally Posted by vetteguy75
What else can we do????
1) wear an extra thick tin foil beanie, just in case the aliens are in range today

2) use extra large font to add importance to posts.
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Fuel hoses have been rated for ethanol blended gas since the 80's. If you have hoses older than that it is high time to replace them anyway.
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What about Marvel Mystery Oil? Will that help?
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Originally Posted by vetteguy75
What about Marvel Mystery Oil? Will that help?
I don't know its a Mystery to me?
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Originally Posted by Snoopysvet
I don't know its a Mystery to me?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
1) wear an extra thick tin foil beanie, just in case the aliens are in range today

2) use extra large font to add importance to posts.
feeling a little testy today mike???
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Find a station that sells gas without that junk in it. there is a web site that will tell you where to find it. enter your zip code and it will tell you where. I have two stations locally within 10 miles.
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All Michigan stations have 10%.
Our friendly government has authorized 15% which is definitely not good unless your vehicle is Flexfuel or designed to handle more than 10%.
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Unfortunately, since the giant agricultural corporations that grow most of the corn in this country have a lot more lobbying power than us lil' ol' hotrodders. It isn't likely that we're gonna see ethanol removed from our gas....EVER. Realistically, if you're going to drive your Vette you need to periodically inspect the rubber tank-to-frame and frame-to-engine fuel lines and replace them if they show any signs of decay. Not to do so means your beloved shark will run a high risk of catching fire. Like the aquatic variety, C3 sharks don't do well in fire...
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Originally Posted by vetteguy75
What about Marvel Mystery Oil? Will that help?
Marvel Mystery Oil is naphtha and wintergreen. No.
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Check out old SAE 30R7 hoses compared to newer 30R9. And Viton parts inside the carb. NAPA has R9.

http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDe....aspx?id=17700

Viton carb accelerator pump. I can't name source: non-sponsor here.


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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
1) wear an extra thick tin foil beanie, just in case the aliens are in range today

2) use extra large font to add importance to posts.

arn't you a geat guy...not.
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Originally Posted by vetteguy75
What about Marvel Mystery Oil? Will that help?
Marvel Mystery Oil is just a bunch of non-sense!! What ya need, see, is some SeaFoam!!! It'll cure what ails ya!!!


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Originally Posted by zwede
Fuel hoses have been rated for ethanol blended gas since the 80's. If you have hoses older than that it is high time to replace them anyway.
Originally Posted by paul 74
Check out old SAE 30R7 hoses compared to newer 30R9. And Viton parts inside the carb. NAPA has R9.

http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDe....aspx?id=17700

Viton carb accelerator pump. I can't name source: non-sponsor here.

And there's your answers- no huge font or miracle in a bottle required.

Originally Posted by KeyWestJack
arn't you a geat guy...not.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
1) wear an extra thick tin foil beanie, just in case the aliens are in range today

2) use extra large font to add importance to posts.
Mike you had me almost rolling on the floor.
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not only does it damage rubber and some metal fuel system components but with a carburetor car, the jetting has to go richer as there is less stored energy in the ethanol. i own and ride classic motorcycles and it is a constant battle for me and my clients, as there is only 1 station in my area that sells ethanol free fuel, and it's a crap no-name brand so i have to use my own detergent mixture to keep a clean motor if i use it.
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