C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Doing my own alignment, need help.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-22-2010, 04:10 PM
  #1  
meinthe73
Racer
Thread Starter
 
meinthe73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2010
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Doing my own alignment, need help.

Well no shops can do my alignment now because they say my wheels are to wide. Ill have to do it my self, if you have any tips or a good write up that you share would be great. Thanks.
Old 11-22-2010, 04:21 PM
  #2  
Sigforty
Le Mans Master
 
Sigforty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2001
Location: Was New Orleans but swam to Baton Rouge LA
Posts: 5,928
Received 276 Likes on 233 Posts
Cruise-In IX Veteran

Default

Too wide? I have never heard that reasoning. What size tires are you running?
Old 11-22-2010, 04:50 PM
  #3  
meinthe73
Racer
Thread Starter
 
meinthe73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2010
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Sigforty
Too wide? I have never heard that reasoning. What size tires are you running?
i put flares on. The rear is 345/40/17 on a 17x11
Old 11-22-2010, 04:52 PM
  #4  
midyearvette
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
midyearvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2008
Location: columbus oh
Posts: 5,691
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by meinthe73
Well no shops can do my alignment now because they say my wheels are to wide. Ill have to do it my self, if you have any tips or a good write up that you share would be great. Thanks.
go to duntov corvette website and you can download instructions for do it yourself alignment......
Old 11-22-2010, 05:25 PM
  #5  
Sigforty
Le Mans Master
 
Sigforty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2001
Location: Was New Orleans but swam to Baton Rouge LA
Posts: 5,928
Received 276 Likes on 233 Posts
Cruise-In IX Veteran

Default

Originally Posted by meinthe73
i put flares on. The rear is 345/40/17 on a 17x11

I honestly think they do not want to mess with it. That size tire is nothing all that crazy, especially since I think a 345 is what the new z06 has.
Old 11-22-2010, 06:16 PM
  #6  
straub18045
Racer
 
straub18045's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

doubt you will get car within specs doing it yourself. caster,camber, toe never will happen without a alignment machine. you can pop on regular tires and wheels for the alignment, if you dont gots then borrow from another vette buddy.
Old 11-22-2010, 06:38 PM
  #7  
dmayhew
Drifting
 
dmayhew's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Location: Brown Summit North Carolina
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Call your local Chevrolet dealership. They did my 71 , it has standard wheels, but like others have said The Z06's can be aligned.

David
Old 11-22-2010, 06:46 PM
  #8  
straub18045
Racer
 
straub18045's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

problem is you need extensions for the machine because of wheel size, local shops may not have em but gm dealer will
Old 11-22-2010, 07:04 PM
  #9  
meinthe73
Racer
Thread Starter
 
meinthe73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2010
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I may be wrong but the guy said no because of the back being way wide compared to the front
Old 11-22-2010, 09:48 PM
  #10  
Sigforty
Le Mans Master
 
Sigforty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2001
Location: Was New Orleans but swam to Baton Rouge LA
Posts: 5,928
Received 276 Likes on 233 Posts
Cruise-In IX Veteran

Default

Originally Posted by meinthe73
I may be wrong but the guy said no because of the back being way wide compared to the front
How many shop have you tried. I have not heard of that being a problem. any good shop will put the pieces on the wheels and use the laser machine to get it right. The size should not matter unless the suspension does not have the adjustment to accommodate the wheels. What I mean is that you need more adjustment than can be provided by the current suspension components. That should be the only possible problem.
Old 11-22-2010, 10:59 PM
  #11  
russde
Advanced
 
russde's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2010
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 66
Received 13 Likes on 7 Posts

Default

Alignments are not the black voodoo magic they are made out to be...and fricken laser beams are not needed either.
Try here for some diy tech: http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13211< I followed the instructions and help here years ago and haven't paid a 'technician' since.
Russ
Old 11-22-2010, 11:34 PM
  #12  
meinthe73
Racer
Thread Starter
 
meinthe73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2010
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by russde
Alignments are not the black voodoo magic they are made out to be...and fricken laser beams are not needed either.
Try here for some diy tech: http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13211< I followed the instructions and help here years ago and haven't paid a 'technician' since.
Russ
your from san antonio? if you know how to do I live in seguin maybe could lend me a hand. have you done a c3?
Old 11-22-2010, 11:53 PM
  #13  
chevymans 77
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
chevymans 77's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2002
Location: Sulphur LA
Posts: 2,687
Received 105 Likes on 95 Posts
St. Jude Donor '05-'06,'11,'13-'14,'16,'18,'19

Default

Just got finished doing mine, I've done mine the last couple times its needed it.

Get on YouTube and watch some video's on the how to of a DIY alignment.

Caster is the hard one but it can be done if you take your time.

The last shop that did mine set the rear toe to 1/16" on the passenger side and 3/16" on the drivers side, car didn't drive right and the steering wheel was off center due to the rear toe being off.

The car has to be level to do a good job

Neal
Old 11-23-2010, 01:40 AM
  #14  
69autoXr
Melting Slicks
 
69autoXr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: Detroit MI
Posts: 3,243
Received 209 Likes on 159 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by straub18045
doubt you will get car within specs doing it yourself. caster,camber, toe never will happen without a alignment machine. you can pop on regular tires and wheels for the alignment, if you dont gots then borrow from another vette buddy.

It's not rocket science. If you take your time and are careful with your setup you can perform an alignment at home with excellent results. I'll even go so far as to say they can be more accurate that what some fool in a shop can produce with a high dollar machine because he doesn't take time to settle the suspension between adjustments. It's tedious work but worth it in the end when you have what you want and didn't have to pay an arm and a leg for it.
Old 11-23-2010, 08:03 AM
  #15  
straub18045
Racer
 
straub18045's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

mite get it close doing it yourself, then give it to me and i will show you were it is out of spec with the hunter machine. most mechanics dont do proper alignments because they dont want to adjust anything. cost good money to replace the chewed up tires due to a vehicle out of alignment.

Last edited by straub18045; 11-23-2010 at 08:08 AM.
Old 11-23-2010, 08:22 AM
  #16  
wcsinx
Team Owner
 
wcsinx's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,160
Received 71 Likes on 65 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by straub18045
mite get it close doing it yourself, then give it to me and i will show you were it is out of spec with the hunter machine. most mechanics dont do proper alignments because they dont want to adjust anything. cost good money to replace the chewed up tires due to a vehicle out of alignment.
Been doing my own alignments for years on both my '76 and '02. And everytime I've had it checked with a fancy shmancy laser machine, I've been spot on ... nothing to change.

As opposed to most mechs that think a 1/16" delta in toe left to right is "close enough".

It's basic geometry not rocket surgery.
Old 11-23-2010, 08:54 AM
  #17  
straub18045
Racer
 
straub18045's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wcsinx
Been doing my own alignments for years on both my '76 and '02. And everytime I've had it checked with a fancy shmancy laser machine, I've been spot on ... nothing to change.

As opposed to most mechs that think a 1/16" delta in toe left to right is "close enough".

It's basic geometry not rocket surgery.
cool beans. everyone has there way of doing things that work for them.after 14 yrs. doing alignments i no what works, i have stricter tolerances than the given specs to, im just alittle more picky.

Get notified of new replies

To Doing my own alignment, need help.

Old 11-23-2010, 08:59 AM
  #18  
mrvette
Team Owner
 
mrvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 1999
Location: Orange Park Florida
Posts: 65,326
Received 223 Likes on 204 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wcsinx
Been doing my own alignments for years on both my '76 and '02. And everytime I've had it checked with a fancy shmancy laser machine, I've been spot on ... nothing to change.

As opposed to most mechs that think a 1/16" delta in toe left to right is "close enough".

It's basic geometry not rocket surgery.
That's about it, nothing to it really, just careful work....

doing it in the garage you will have to know the new track center for the rear, as opposed to the front, and I wonder if your tires stick out so far they are loading the suspension, and too much stress on the lower strut, shafts....I don't know to what extent you modded the t-arms....I did '92 vette wheels on my '72 long time ago....all I did was move the ebrake cable...same wheel/tire centerline....which BTW is 3/8 inch per side wider than in front.....if you have dis similar wheels, you have a problem measuring that, I just use a hub center, or in my case the hub cap to set the fishing line up on....my adapters are same on all 4 corners...2.5"......
Old 11-23-2010, 09:18 AM
  #19  
mashinter
Drifting
 
mashinter's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2008
Location: Rochester Hills Michigan
Posts: 1,913
Received 71 Likes on 46 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by meinthe73
I may be wrong but the guy said no because of the back being way wide compared to the front
His machine may have heads that communicate front-to-back, and the wide rear is out of range of the fronts?
Old 11-23-2010, 09:32 AM
  #20  
69autoXr
Melting Slicks
 
69autoXr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: Detroit MI
Posts: 3,243
Received 209 Likes on 159 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by straub18045
mite get it close doing it yourself, then give it to me and i will show you were it is out of spec with the hunter machine. most mechanics dont do proper alignments because they dont want to adjust anything. cost good money to replace the chewed up tires due to a vehicle out of alignment.
You're right, my alignment would absolutely be "out of spec", but that's how I want it. That's another of the beauties of doing it myself: I can set it where I want, and change it if I want without having to pay someone each time.

If you have a high dollar machine and take your time and understand all of the things that go into setting an accurate alignment then that is great, most shops have hacks or kids running the alignment racks who don't even understand the settings they're putting on and how they affect vehicle handling. But please don't try telling someone they can't do it at home and not achieve results that are just as good as using expensive shop equipment (using it properly I will add).


Quick Reply: Doing my own alignment, need help.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:30 AM.