Solid Lifter differences
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Solid Lifter differences
Solid lifters range from like 85 bucks for a set of crane solid lifters to 190 bucks for a set of isky lifters?
Is there really features that are worth 100 bucks?
The isky lifters that are 191 bucks apparently have some form of an increased oiling system
For $140 bucks crower will provide specially oiling at the lifter face.
Is there really features that are worth 100 bucks?
The isky lifters that are 191 bucks apparently have some form of an increased oiling system
For $140 bucks crower will provide specially oiling at the lifter face.
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I'm a solid lifter person and have always used either GM or Herbert Cams Lifters with no issues at all. Chet Herbert makes his own as well cams at a cheap price, I think his son Doug just markets Chets stuff on his site here is a good link for the lifters: http://www.dougherbert.com/liftersso...021c20198e4f63
If you call Chet or Doug they can have a cam ground for your application and with Lifters they run around $130.00.
If you call Chet or Doug they can have a cam ground for your application and with Lifters they run around $130.00.
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There is a visible difference in the quality and weight of the different levels of lifters,for example place a four dollar replacement OEM style lifter next to a thirty dollar Nascar racing lifter.In theory the EDM oiling hole in the lifter face might work if it doesn't get plugged,I can't say if it is worthwhile paying the extra money though for a street or drag engine,they just don't see that much high(7500+) sustained RPM.
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Last time I built a small block with a solid cam, I used Melling lifters. I drove the absolute SCHNITZEL out of that car ('56 Bel Air) for almost 5 years and never had an issue with them.
I had 4:56 gears in the ***-end of it, and used 8500 RPM shift points when I raced. She never broke and never complained.
I had 4:56 gears in the ***-end of it, and used 8500 RPM shift points when I raced. She never broke and never complained.
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There is DEFINITELY a difference in lifters out there. You just can't find the lifters of the old days. The old *Johnson* lifters were the best and have been discontinued. There are some folks that ratholed a few sets that can be had sometimes. Those were the GM ones too. There are tons of Chinese ones out there that are causing a lot of the flat tappet cam issues. It's NOT all just the oil. COMP is offering *Johnson Style* lifters...not sure who makes them. I would definitely use the ones with the EDM oiling to help out. Crower has a good reputation with them as well as Isky. Don't cheap out here for sure. You can move up to the serious ones from PBM or a few others...but that's NASCAR territory and cost a LOT. You might use the Comps with the hardened face insert.
Whatever you do,,use brand name...don't go generic. Make SURE they turn/spin in the bores when the engine turns over. They HAVE to spin or any of them will die quickly.
JIM
Whatever you do,,use brand name...don't go generic. Make SURE they turn/spin in the bores when the engine turns over. They HAVE to spin or any of them will die quickly.
JIM
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I'm a solid lifter person and have always used either GM or Herbert Cams Lifters with no issues at all. Chet Herbert makes his own as well cams at a cheap price, I think his son Doug just markets Chets stuff on his site here is a good link for the lifters: http://www.dougherbert.com/liftersso...021c20198e4f63
If you call Chet or Doug they can have a cam ground for your application and with Lifters they run around $130.00.
If you call Chet or Doug they can have a cam ground for your application and with Lifters they run around $130.00.
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Johnson were discontinued then rebooted about 4 years back as "HyLift" "Topline" Johnson ... I know that was well after the "lifeter shortage". I KNOW they were mfg in Muskegon but understand they were to also mfg in Florida. Presently, I cannot KNOW if they're still producting anywhere.
I ran the solids w/ EDM oil hole in face in a circle track sbc ... works GREAT! FYI, there is a TINY loss of oil pressure ... almost negligible ... don't sweat it. I got those lifters from "Competition Products" ... their holed house brand were about $90 when crower etc were ~ $125-150.
closer look at op loss: there was a greater RATE of loss at very low rpm ... where ct spend very little time ... I suggest if you were to run holed lifters in a street motor, that you should also run a hi volume pump.
I ran the solids w/ EDM oil hole in face in a circle track sbc ... works GREAT! FYI, there is a TINY loss of oil pressure ... almost negligible ... don't sweat it. I got those lifters from "Competition Products" ... their holed house brand were about $90 when crower etc were ~ $125-150.
closer look at op loss: there was a greater RATE of loss at very low rpm ... where ct spend very little time ... I suggest if you were to run holed lifters in a street motor, that you should also run a hi volume pump.
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Fortunately I have the hi volume adjustable oil pressure pump covered.
http://www.titanspeed.com/content/pump/index.htm
http://www.titanspeed.com/content/pump/index.htm