Corvettj

Ok, this is the deal I have been offered to trade my 69 Vette for 8k and a project 69 Z28, the Z28 is a runing driving car, needs paint and interior, plus detailing and it could be worth 20k, I was selling the 69 for 14k so I could put my self in line for a 2003-04 new vette, I know wrong forum to ask this question since your all C3 owners, but I figure you will be the hardest on me if this is a real bad deal, I have the talent to do all most all the work on the Z28 so labor is no problem.. I did 90% of the work on the Vette..
Thanks guys and gal's you have always been helpful

JC

SuperFast80

Look, a '69 L46 is a desireable car that will only become more so in the future - especially in the shape yours is in. A '69 Z28 is a classic as well. It is a tough call but if (1) you were going to sell the Vette anyway (2) you can do your own work (3) the car is in the shape you say, then maybe it is a good deal for YOU right now.

I would NEVER sell the Vette but we are not talking about what I would do. We are talking about you. :yesnod:

James

Ok this is how I see it.
I own a 68 Rally Sport Camaro that I restored 15 years ago.
I have won a number of car shows with it and people still ask me if I just recently had it painted all of the time. I love the car and can't seem to part with it due to the amount of time I put into it. I also own a 69 convertible vette that I have been restoring for about 2.5 years now. I do believe that when I get it done I would have a hard time trading it for something else. I think it is the time thing that you put into a car that gets me. Even though the trade might be good I think I would always want to re-do things that someone else has already done to the way that I would like them to look.
As far a Vette to Camaro you know how chevy marketed the Camaro and the vette together in the late 60's and the vette was considered the top dog but the camaro was there for the people that could not afford the vette.
I would think about it hard before the trade.
I love both of these styles of cars.
:chevy

KenSny

I love early Camaros so I promise not to be hard.

Would I trade my '75, yes! Would I trade your '69 - depends what is in that Camaro. Is it a 396? You say it is a Z28, but can you be sure? Might be an RS or an SS with Z28 badges.

James - QUOTE: .....but the camaro was there for the people that could not afford the vette. UNQUOTE

Now that's just not true. No Camaro buyer ever thought of himself as buying a "poor man's Corvette". Yes Corvette owners like to believe that, but a Camaro and a Corvette are as different as night and day. One was developed to compete against Mustangs and like muscle cars, the other was developed to compete against Cobras and like sports cars. Different applications.




[Modified by KenSny, 11:07 AM 1/8/2002]

lbell101

Well, I guess there's a few questions and realities to give yourself!
1. Do you think you could get $6000.00 for the Z28 as is? Cause that's the difference between the 14k and 8K.
2. You know well enough that a $20,000 Z28 is a damned nice one.
3. Can you restore the Z28 and still make a $6,000 profit or better?

I think you see what I'm getting at. If the Z28 isn't worth $6,000.00 now then it's a no go. If the potential profit from the Z28 is not more than $6,000.00 then it's a no go.
I don't think it would work out for you UNLESS you really wanted a Z-28. I've lost more $$ on cars than most make in a couple years because of overvalueing and underestamating the costs.
Personally, if you can get $14,000 for your Vette then I think you will come out on the wrong end of the trade.

$0.02!

hasbro

If it's a real 1969 Z28, it will have the 302 which is very hard to find. That's what adds to the price of the 69 Camaro. If it has anything else.... skip the deal...... it's either a fake or the original engine is gone. It should also have an aluminum high rise intake and a nice Holley sitting on it, solid lifters, etc.
I bought a 69 Camaro new and they were a fun car to drive. (Don't I wish it was still sitting in my garage!) The suspension was unbelieveable for it's day. It cornered like it was on rails....
I would take the deal if it was all original and bring it back to "showroom".

Alwyn678

Keep the vette

Dalannex

Only way I would do it is if the Camaro was an absolutely perfect restoration, and your vette was in need of a complete end to end frame off. But from looking at the pic of your vette I can see that's not the case. Remember, your car is a CORVETTE, the other one is a Camaro and will always be a Camaro. :) Oops, there comes my bias towards Corvettes again.

KenSny

hasbro - You and me both! I bought a 1 yr old '69 SS 396 (traded my 66 GTO for it), and sold it in 74. It was still all original when I sold it.

BeaterShark

So, you think your '69 Corvette is worth 14K and with a lot of labor the '69 Z28 will be worth 20K?

I don't know much about the market for Z28s, but I find it hard to believe that a restored '69 Z28 is worth more (not to mention 6k more) than a '69 L46 Corvette.

73 Teach's Pet

1. The grass is ALWAYS appears greener on the other side, but how green is it when you actually jump the fence?

2. My Father put it very well to me along time ago, there are special desirable variations of some cars, like a REAL 69 Camaro Z28, but not all 69 Camaro's are special or desirable. But ALL Corvettes are special and desirable.

3. REAL or not, 69 Z28 Camaro's are cloned and way too plentiful. They don't even make me bat an eye. They are about as plentiful as 5.0 Mustangs, YUCK!

4. If the two cars were in equal condition, which one do you think would get the most looks, comments and chicks? The Z's didn't hold a condle to the Vettes back then, and still don't do it for me now. Don't make a mistake that will have you telling stories like the old timers..... way back in 19(?) I had a (?) and man, I should have never or wish I had never gotten rid of that car. Boy, I wish I still had that car today.
That my friend, was the first lesson of owning a desirable car my Father taught me at age 12. I have never sold a desirable car, which is why I have 6 collector cars and a winter truck.
But above all, you must be happy with your choice and live with your decision.
Decide wisely, "Grasshopper."
Be Cool.
"TEACH"

427V8

If the Z28 was further allong in the resto I'd say sure, but it looks to me like you are coming out on the loosing end of the deal...

0Mike69@ECS

Here's my .02 If youre 100% sure it's a real Z28 it's prob a good deal.

Real 69 Z's are pretty hard to come by. There are a million fakes out there. 6k for one that is not that bad off is a steal. I know my brother has been looking for one just like you described for almost 2 years now. he's looking to spend 10-12k for the car.

I love your vette though. (and I think it's prob worth a little more than 14k)
If your not totally attached to the vette I'd say go for it. (provided the Z is real)

Wanna sell me the TTII's off it first?????!!!! :D :lol:

1Bad69

:nono:

Corvettj

WOW, lots of response's, Yes it is a REAL Z28 X33 coded car. I have had several 69 Camaro's and Z28's in the past. So I have confirmed it is real. But Yes in need of help, where the Vette is a great driving car, which I have worked out 90% of the bugs. So it is a very Hard deal to make, if I make it???? maybe I should ask the Camaro Crowd..... HAHAHAHA

Rowdy Rat

If you are looking at a legitimate X33 car with a matching numbers driveline, I'd say that this car plus $8,000 cash would be one heck of a deal.

From a financial standpoint, with both cars restored (I'm using "restored" in the strictest sense of the definition) to the same level, the Z-28 would be worth considerablly more than an L-46 Corvette in today's market.

As far as what choice to make? That's a tough one... Personally, I like Camaros (I have a '69 myself) as well as Corvettes... I think that I'd come up with the cash necessary to pick up the Z-28 and keep the L-46 as well. You could always turn one or the other later and at $6,000 (give or take) purchase price, you can't go wrong with a first generation Z-28.

Good luck with your decision!

Regards,

Alwyn678

i think you know what they will tell...you...Go with your gut

KenSny

I gotta agree here, if it is for real, all original or restored, then it's not a bad deal. Depends on what you like in the way of "hot-rods".

Don't let the "fact" (and I use the term lightly) that it is not a Corvette sway you. Personally I think it would be really nice to have 2 '69s in my garage! My wife might think otherwise, but...

Why is it that so many people are biased into thinking that the only car worth owning is a Corvette? Kind of makes you wonder what other cars these guys have owned in the past. No wonder so many people think us Corvette owners are prima donnas because "we" can't see the good in any other marque.

Brutal64

You said you were selling the 69 to buy another Vette in 2003-04. This deal came along and now you are considering a 69 Z28. Sounds to me like you need to sit down and decide what you really want. I would hate to see you take this deal and then every time you see a new Vette regret it.

Although I would take a restored Z28 over a new Vette any day, so what do I know. :rolleyes:

Good luck.

Jazn74

Z28's are plentiful for 1969, they made like 19K of them. There are lots of fakes out there and if you don't have documentation like a POP or more, I would walk away. It's not hard to restamp a block and falsify the VIN. Be wary. They are worth a lot when completely restored, but any body work (welding) is a bitch to do. Personally I think they are over-priced for the amount that are out there. 68 Z28's are the same in price and far fewer, go figure.
Of course, I have a 69 Z28 so it's easier to be rational about the subject.