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Old 05-19-2008, 01:25 PM
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Well, for those of you whom ave been around a few years you may remember that i first purchased my black 77 while stationed at Pearl Harbor back in 2003 right before joining the forum. Currently, i am on sea duty at NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach and it looks like i will be PCS'ing to Naples Italy early next year. So, this begs the question, i am running and riding on 16 inch Dunlop GT qualifiers and its time to have them replaced. She needs two front tires at teh least, the passenger tire is badly worn, more so then teh drivers side. I can be cheap and get away with just the two front tires and an alignment, or invest REAL money and go with a more modern tire size, one thats easyier to find while stationed in Italy.
So, i hate to be the member who brings up switching tires sizes ( a topic covered often from time to time) but if it makes mroe since to switch to lower profile rubber then maybe thats more sensible then being told every two or three years that performane tires in our sizes are discontinued. I hate to get rid of those great looking rally wheels, but like alot of service menbers, i am on on budget.
any advice would be much appreciated!

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I'm lost, are you looking for tires in Europe?
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I've driven all over Europe. My advice would be to leave your vette in storage state side. The old gas eating Vette is not going to be a good DD on 4 meter cobble stone streets. Or 5 vehicles wide on what might be a 3 marked lanes in the US. Naples is a tough city (high in crime). City traffic driving in most Italian cities sucks. Parking Smaller sports cars are what you need.

7-8 equivalent dollars per gallon.

I'd also be buying the best tires you can buy. Rain slicked windy roads with rock walls

A Vette is a big heavy long nosed American pig in comparison to EU sports cars that have no emmision controls and lowered right down on the ground. I like renting BMW M3's manual tranny ready for the race track and 240+ Kph without a problem
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A Vette is a big heavy long nosed American pig in comparison to EU sports cars that have no emmision controls and lowered right down on the ground. I like renting BMW M3's manual tranny ready for the race track and 240+ Kph without a problem
Old 05-19-2008, 04:42 PM
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Mhmmmm.....

Not totally correct!
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Originally Posted by gkull
I've driven all over Europe. My advice would be to leave your vette in storage state side. The old gas eating Vette is not going to be a good DD on 4 meter cobble stone streets. Or 5 vehicles wide on what might be a 3 marked lanes in the US. Naples is a tough city (high in crime). City traffic driving in most Italian cities sucks. Parking Smaller sports cars are what you need.

7-8 equivalent dollars per gallon.

I'd also be buying the best tires you can buy. Rain slicked windy roads with rock walls

A Vette is a big heavy long nosed American pig in comparison to EU sports cars that have no emmision controls and lowered right down on the ground. I like renting BMW M3's manual tranny ready for the race track and 240+ Kph without a problem
Hmmmmmm, I live in Europe (UK) and I don't think a BMW M3 will give you much 'street cred' - most people who seem to drive these in UK are what we kindly refer to a 'tossers' who are unable to drive any car without abs or traction control.
Having said all that there is no-way that I would even consider using my '68 'long nose pig' as an every day driver - the fuel costs
Italians drive in an 'inverse proportion' to the size and power of the vehicle. I.e. they drive larger, safer sportier cars better than they drive small, underpowered and poorly maintained cars. No slurs intended - its a Mediteranean thing
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I guess i COULD leave the gas guzzling pig at home with mom and dad,..they deserve a shiny black vette in their drive way,..but i'd miss her like a old girlfriend(one that puts out). I will certainly not use her as a DD, thats for sure! So, the from what i am gathering, the major issure isnt tires adn other maintenance issues, its living with 30+ year old American car in teh first place in naples ,..i wonder were teh heck folks w/ Ferraris and Porches live adn drive?
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For example i know severan guys driving a C3 in Naples!
Alain, a friend of mine, live in Naples and was driving a 74 convertible C3 before to sell it and now drives a Cyclone!

I daily drive my C6 from home to office.... and i drive my 79 on a regular basis.

Of course..... if you use to drive in the very wide american roads at 55miles..... you will be scared of driving in Naples

Bring your vette in our country...... and you will meet lots of Italian Corvette Lovers!

Send me an e-mail when you will be in Italy!!!
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Originally Posted by sharkthehunter77
I guess i COULD leave the gas guzzling pig at home with mom and dad,..they deserve a shiny black vette in their drive way,..but i'd miss her like a old girlfriend(one that puts out). I will certainly not use her as a DD, thats for sure! So, the from what i am gathering, the major issure isnt tires adn other maintenance issues, its living with 30+ year old American car in teh first place in naples ,..i wonder were teh heck folks w/ Ferraris and Porches live adn drive?
Bring her along! We've got plenty tires (yes, those we do have) for reasonable prices (but more expensive than in the US!), so that shouldn't hold you back. Naples might not be the best city to drive around right now (especially with those garbage barricades going on), but the rest of Italy -be sure to visit Toscane- is down-right beautiful
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Yes...... I live in Toscana..... and it's awesome!
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Keep the vette home. Been there and done that. Beside some of the rough/narrow streets, tight parking (lots of dings), hooligans will undoubtedly vandalized your ride.

On the other side of the coin, your vette will become an instant attraction lots of picture ops, and the dreaded finger prints - but a good way to meet the ladies... There are a lot of positives of taking your vette, but IMHO Europe can be tough on any car.

As a bit of a warning, the trip from the states to "whatever" port can be quite damaging to the car. The four times we did the US to EU crossing, the car where dented, two cracked windshields, sideswiped, and one Country Esquire (love that old station wagon) dropped in the drink...

I really don't want to discourage you, but just go into it with eyes open. If I had to do it again, I would leave the cars home. Just buy a local ride from someone on base that’s about to leave, and enjoy the country side in almost total anonymity.
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Originally Posted by livelotus
I really don't want to discourage you, but just go into it with eyes open.............Just buy a local ride from someone on base that’s about to leave, and enjoy the country side in almost total anonymity.
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Yes...... I live in Toscana..... and it's very nice place!
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Hi

And I spend a couple of vacations in Toscana and never saw a Vette there .

It's easier to spot a wild land turtle there than a Vette.

Rgds. Günther
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parkingspace depends where you go I guess, but it will be smaller than the US. We don't have that much space here. Fuel price will kill you if you drive regularly.

I heard the same advice for Naples. Maybe better to drive an old Fiat totally anonymously
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Wesch,
ask to Fernand of Luxembourg Corvette Club ...... he knows if there is some Vette in Italy!

In Toscana there is at least 15 C3, several C4, 25-30 C5 and some 30 C6...... of course not a lot.... but not few!

Here some pics...

http://picasaweb.google.com/ScuderiaCorvetteItalia

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Yes, Fernand keeps on telling me the same, but as I sayed, I couldn't see them.
But mabe it was too hot those fwe weeks I stayed .

Rgds. Günther

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parkingspace depends where you go I guess, but it will be smaller than the US. We don't have that much space here. Fuel price will kill you if you drive regularly.

I heard the same advice for Naples. Maybe better to drive an old Fiat totally anonymously
My DD in The Netherlands actually is a small two-door Fiat Punto ('96, 1.0, "Sport") and it's great for everyday use. I keep my 'vette safely stored in a secure parking for the weekends and holidays. When I take her out for a spin I always try to avoid the situations and roads mentioned above, which worked quite well for the past 4 years.

If you could afford buy a 'vette already in Italy for a decent price and sell it when you leave that would indeed be the safest option, considering the transport risks. But really, it's not like we all drive as maniacs around here, that's just the French
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it's not like we all drive as maniacs around here, that's just the French
And then some...
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I think i will take the car regardless,..i would simply miss driving her too much. have to look into some secure storage though! And, just buy soem small local runabout to use a s a daily driver.



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