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Old 04-03-2022, 12:48 AM
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The car is mostly together and I've only driven it a couple of times - it needs a good alignment and some odds and ends. It steers like a slot car now!
Old 04-03-2022, 12:50 AM
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It is a real pain to adjust the upper arms with the diff raised into the car!
Old 07-16-2022, 05:17 PM
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I am staying with BASICALLY the stock setup, with Van Steel offset trailing arms, coil overs, and adjustable camber rods. I want to raise the diff like you did. Will raising the diff make it harder for me to make adjustments? I am doing this mostly for cosmetics; I want to lower the car for the way it looks, don't plan to race it, but the 20 year old who will be doing the work on the car may want to...
Old 07-18-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Daugird
I am staying with BASICALLY the stock setup, with Van Steel offset trailing arms, coil overs, and adjustable camber rods. I want to raise the diff like you did. Will raising the diff make it harder for me to make adjustments? I am doing this mostly for cosmetics; I want to lower the car for the way it looks, don't plan to race it, but the 20 year old who will be doing the work on the car may want to...
This is essentially my setup. I have VanSteel offset trailing arms, their coil-overs (big block springs) and the VBP racing strut rods (heim joints). To raise the diff (lower the car) I removed the top hats and welded in a steel plate for a solid mounting as described in the Chevy Performance manual. I spent a good amount of time getting the driveline angles correct (installed a TKO600 at the same time) and don't have any noticeable vibration or moise with the setup. Adjustment was not hard in this configuration.

For the adjustable camber strut rods, I would suggest making a plate to cover the mounting slot on the center bracket with a pre-drilled hole at the lowest point possible for the strut-rod to mount and weld it to the bracket. That way you don't ever have to worry about it moving. Since you have the adjustable rods, you don't need a slot in the mounting bracket as that was to allow the cam bolt to move the mount point for adjustments. Think I remember something in Chevy Performance manual about locating this mount point lower than stock for better geometry as well.

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Old 08-10-2022, 03:21 PM
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I got a spare crossmember so I can do this modification while the car is still together and it will be ready to install, less down time. how thick is the plate you put on top for re-inforcement?
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Also, what about the pinion snubber?
Old 08-11-2022, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Daugird
I got a spare crossmember so I can do this modification while the car is still together and it will be ready to install, less down time. how thick is the plate you put on top for re-inforcement?
I also used a spare crossmember (well, I bought one) just in case I screwed it up

I'm not sure how you would do this on a crossmember out of the car. When I did it, I used 1/4 inch thick plate cut into the circles to fit in the top hat holes. I bolted the rear to the crossmember, set it in place, then inserted the plates and bolted them to the chassis to hold them. I then set the rear end angle equal and opposite to my transmission angle to set the driveline angle correctly. Once set, I tack welded the plates to the crossmember, dropped the assembly and finished the weld. I'm not sure you can estimate both the correct depth in the holes to weld the plates at, and the angle so the rear is aligned without the parts actually being in the car. Remember, you will be solid mounting it, so really need to build the angle into the mounts.

W/respect to the pinion front rubber mount, I did have to mod mine slightly to re-position the holes and re-weld it. I have not heard of anyone else mentioning this, so it could be something specific to my setup.
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I cut the notch last night. I was planning to keep the rubber mounts at either end of the crossmember. All I am really doing is lowering the car for cosmetic reasons, don't plan on racing it. The car has probably never had any of the bushings, tie rod ends, ball joints, etc. replaced and it still handles better than any other car I've ever owned(except maybe an '89 WS6 Formula Firebird I owned 20 years ago, it was worn out too!). I have all new stuff ready to put in once I get it up on the lift(installing the lift is another project!). I see what you are saying about tacking everything in place to get the driveshaft/pinion angle right. That is what I will do. I still have the original crossmember in case I screw up!
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I got rid of the end rubber mounts and went solid disk. Front and rear rubber suspension snubbers have been gone for 30+ rears. My differential front snubber is a machined aluminum disk just to set the driveline angle. I had real problems with wheel hop. So bad that I thought that I would have to let off the gas to keep from breaking something. The cure is the raised and solidly mounted diff, Smart struts, big rear springs,3/4 inch spring end sway bar, and QA1 dual adjust shocks.

In this picture I was taking out the rear end putting in my spare diff with the HD rear end cover. So the sway and exhaust is already removed. The way that the cross member is mounted raised the diff. @ 3/4 inches.


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Originally Posted by Richard Daugird
I cut the notch last night. I was planning to keep the rubber mounts at either end of the crossmember. All I am really doing is lowering the car for cosmetic reasons, don't plan on racing it. The car has probably never had any of the bushings, tie rod ends, ball joints, etc. replaced and it still handles better than any other car I've ever owned(except maybe an '89 WS6 Formula Firebird I owned 20 years ago, it was worn out too!). I have all new stuff ready to put in once I get it up on the lift(installing the lift is another project!). I see what you are saying about tacking everything in place to get the driveshaft/pinion angle right. That is what I will do. I still have the original crossmember in case I screw up!
OK, we did it different ways. If you are notching the crossmember I get how you are doing it out of the car. If you are keeping the top hat mounts, you might be able to get away without tacking for the driveline angle as you will still have the flexible mount points between the crossmember and the frame that will allow the pivot necessary to set the angle. Just need to adjust the thickness of the front pinion mount.

Just occurred to me that if you are doing it out of the car, I would suggest taking some kind of measurement to determine how much room you have between the rear end and the body. Mine was extremely tight in terms of clearances. You don't want to make the notch too deep and have the rear hit the body.

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Old 08-12-2022, 10:44 AM
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I'm not gonna take any chances, I will check the angles, tack it up, then pull it back out for welding. For now I can have all the re-inforcement done, just leave the part with the mounting holes for last.



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