Which bilstiens are stiffer sports or HD?
06-21-2007, 01:31 AM
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Which bilstiens are stiffer sports or HD?
Should I get the Sport or the HD for bilstiens? I'm looking for a firmer ride. I have the F41 springs set with a 427, so I figured I could go with the firmer set considering the extra weight and the heavier spring rates
Any recommendations? I did a search and saw most people have the sports, just thought I'd ask before bought.
Thanks in advance,
Christ
Any recommendations? I did a search and saw most people have the sports, just thought I'd ask before bought.
Thanks in advance,
Christ
06-21-2007, 06:44 AM
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I have Sports on my car with stock front springs and a 355# AO Smith rear monospring. That is a very good combo. I would not change anything there. If you race at the track you might want to spend more for the QA-1's but for a street driver the Sports are great.
I would say the HD's are designed for somewhat less spirited driving in general. I have a set of those on my Camaro. I did not put Sports on the Camaro because they do not make them for that vehicle. I would have bought Sports again.
You might want to check with Van Steel to see what they advise. I dont think they even carry the HD's. The Sports are great. I have never heard about anyone being dissapointed with them.
-Mark.
I would say the HD's are designed for somewhat less spirited driving in general. I have a set of those on my Camaro. I did not put Sports on the Camaro because they do not make them for that vehicle. I would have bought Sports again.
You might want to check with Van Steel to see what they advise. I dont think they even carry the HD's. The Sports are great. I have never heard about anyone being dissapointed with them.
-Mark.
06-21-2007, 09:20 AM
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06-21-2007, 09:26 AM
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06-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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Karsten,
Thanks for the heads up. I doubt I will have them reworked. These are just fine out of the box. Any improvement would be marginal at best. These old girls are pretty limited in how far you can take them.
-Mark.
Thanks for the heads up. I doubt I will have them reworked. These are just fine out of the box. Any improvement would be marginal at best. These old girls are pretty limited in how far you can take them.
-Mark.
06-21-2007, 02:26 PM
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I have Sports on my car with stock front springs and a 355# AO Smith rear monospring. That is a very good combo. I would not change anything there. If you race at the track you might want to spend more for the QA-1's but for a street driver the Sports are great.
I would say the HD's are designed for somewhat less spirited driving in general. I have a set of those on my Camaro. I did not put Sports on the Camaro because they do not make them for that vehicle. I would have bought Sports again.
You might want to check with Van Steel to see what they advise. I dont think they even carry the HD's. The Sports are great. I have never heard about anyone being dissapointed with them.
-Mark.
I would say the HD's are designed for somewhat less spirited driving in general. I have a set of those on my Camaro. I did not put Sports on the Camaro because they do not make them for that vehicle. I would have bought Sports again.
You might want to check with Van Steel to see what they advise. I dont think they even carry the HD's. The Sports are great. I have never heard about anyone being dissapointed with them.
-Mark.
. I called Bilstiens Tech and was told the Sports were only for lowered vehicles (
WTF). Thanks for clearing that up.
06-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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Just got my bilstein HD's the other day from willcox, cheapest price I could find. SPorts are stiffer so I went with the HDs. Will probably install saturday,
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06-21-2007, 04:49 PM
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I have no idea why the Tech would say that.
It just ain't so. -Mark.
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. What I am looking for is good spring control at high G loads (but still drive on the street everyday). Sports seem the way to go. Just a lot of money to put out and not be sure they'll do the job.
My other possiblity are the Edelbrock Shocks, but I can't find anyone that has them on their Vette.
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Yea, that Tech surprised me BIG time. What I am looking for is good spring control at high G loads (but still drive on the street everyday). Sports seem the way to go. Just a lot of money to put out and not be sure they'll do the job.
My other possiblity are the Edelbrock Shocks, but I can't find anyone that has them on their Vette.
. What I am looking for is good spring control at high G loads (but still drive on the street everyday). Sports seem the way to go. Just a lot of money to put out and not be sure they'll do the job.My other possiblity are the Edelbrock Shocks, but I can't find anyone that has them on their Vette.
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I just ordered Sports from VB&P. They Don't carry the HD's either. I told them that I didn't want too stiff a ride and the KYB's I currently have on the car are poop. The told me that the sports were SOFTER than the HD's ---- Can't seem to get a straight story
06-22-2007, 07:47 AM
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See if this helps
This is from the web site:
GETTING THE RIDE THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU
Bilstein mono-tube gas pressure shock absorbers are available in a wide variety of sizes and stiffness settings, depending
upon the vehicle type and use. All Bilstein shocks absorbers instantaneously self-adjust to changing road surfaces; in addition,
their performance does not gradually decline from age, use or heat, requiring no compensating manual adjustments as
with conventional multi-tube shocks. Shock stiffness settings are divided into five usage categories shown below.
SPORT (S)
For the performance-minded driver, Bilstein “Sport” shocks deliver absolute mastery of the road surface.
Designed to push a car’s suspension to it’s performance peak, these shocks are well suited for use with special springs, antisway
bars or other suspension upgrades.
HEAVY DUTY (HD)
For most vehicles including full-size sedans, SUVs and trucks. These shocks provide improved handling and stability without
sacrificing ride comfort. They offer super damping ability that makes them ideal for heavy hauling for occasional off-road use,
while maintaining an exceptional “street” ride.
COMFORT (C)
For the driver who wants maximum ride comfort, with the virtual elimination of “bottoming out” and vehicle sway.
These shocks generally maintain and, in many cases, enhance a vehicle’s original ride qualities while increasing
road-handling and overall stability.
5100 SERIES
For specific manufactured lift kits utilizing the stock OEM mounting configuration.
Self-adjusting deflective disc valving, Independent rebound and compression with superior control for larger diameter tires.
RALLE, RACE
For rigorous demands of driving competition. Their success should be measured by the unprecedented levels of acceptance
and use by professional drivers in virtually all major Motorsports.
Include such features as spherical bearings, adjustable spring seats longer or shorter than standard dimensions. *Not suited
for street use.
GETTING THE RIDE THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU
Bilstein mono-tube gas pressure shock absorbers are available in a wide variety of sizes and stiffness settings, depending
upon the vehicle type and use. All Bilstein shocks absorbers instantaneously self-adjust to changing road surfaces; in addition,
their performance does not gradually decline from age, use or heat, requiring no compensating manual adjustments as
with conventional multi-tube shocks. Shock stiffness settings are divided into five usage categories shown below.
SPORT (S)
For the performance-minded driver, Bilstein “Sport” shocks deliver absolute mastery of the road surface.
Designed to push a car’s suspension to it’s performance peak, these shocks are well suited for use with special springs, antisway
bars or other suspension upgrades.
HEAVY DUTY (HD)
For most vehicles including full-size sedans, SUVs and trucks. These shocks provide improved handling and stability without
sacrificing ride comfort. They offer super damping ability that makes them ideal for heavy hauling for occasional off-road use,
while maintaining an exceptional “street” ride.
COMFORT (C)
For the driver who wants maximum ride comfort, with the virtual elimination of “bottoming out” and vehicle sway.
These shocks generally maintain and, in many cases, enhance a vehicle’s original ride qualities while increasing
road-handling and overall stability.
5100 SERIES
For specific manufactured lift kits utilizing the stock OEM mounting configuration.
Self-adjusting deflective disc valving, Independent rebound and compression with superior control for larger diameter tires.
RALLE, RACE
For rigorous demands of driving competition. Their success should be measured by the unprecedented levels of acceptance
and use by professional drivers in virtually all major Motorsports.
Include such features as spherical bearings, adjustable spring seats longer or shorter than standard dimensions. *Not suited
for street use.
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This is from the web site:
GETTING THE RIDE THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU
Bilstein mono-tube gas pressure shock absorbers are available in a wide variety of sizes and stiffness settings, depending
upon the vehicle type and use. All Bilstein shocks absorbers instantaneously self-adjust to changing road surfaces; in addition,
their performance does not gradually decline from age, use or heat, requiring no compensating manual adjustments as
with conventional multi-tube shocks. Shock stiffness settings are divided into five usage categories shown below.
SPORT (S)
For the performance-minded driver, Bilstein “Sport” shocks deliver absolute mastery of the road surface.
Designed to push a car’s suspension to it’s performance peak, these shocks are well suited for use with special springs, antisway
bars or other suspension upgrades.
HEAVY DUTY (HD)
For most vehicles including full-size sedans, SUVs and trucks. These shocks provide improved handling and stability without
sacrificing ride comfort. They offer super damping ability that makes them ideal for heavy hauling for occasional off-road use,
while maintaining an exceptional “street” ride.
COMFORT (C)
For the driver who wants maximum ride comfort, with the virtual elimination of “bottoming out” and vehicle sway.
These shocks generally maintain and, in many cases, enhance a vehicle’s original ride qualities while increasing
road-handling and overall stability.
5100 SERIES
For specific manufactured lift kits utilizing the stock OEM mounting configuration.
Self-adjusting deflective disc valving, Independent rebound and compression with superior control for larger diameter tires.
RALLE, RACE
For rigorous demands of driving competition. Their success should be measured by the unprecedented levels of acceptance
and use by professional drivers in virtually all major Motorsports.
Include such features as spherical bearings, adjustable spring seats longer or shorter than standard dimensions. *Not suited
for street use.
GETTING THE RIDE THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU
Bilstein mono-tube gas pressure shock absorbers are available in a wide variety of sizes and stiffness settings, depending
upon the vehicle type and use. All Bilstein shocks absorbers instantaneously self-adjust to changing road surfaces; in addition,
their performance does not gradually decline from age, use or heat, requiring no compensating manual adjustments as
with conventional multi-tube shocks. Shock stiffness settings are divided into five usage categories shown below.
SPORT (S)
For the performance-minded driver, Bilstein “Sport” shocks deliver absolute mastery of the road surface.
Designed to push a car’s suspension to it’s performance peak, these shocks are well suited for use with special springs, antisway
bars or other suspension upgrades.
HEAVY DUTY (HD)
For most vehicles including full-size sedans, SUVs and trucks. These shocks provide improved handling and stability without
sacrificing ride comfort. They offer super damping ability that makes them ideal for heavy hauling for occasional off-road use,
while maintaining an exceptional “street” ride.
COMFORT (C)
For the driver who wants maximum ride comfort, with the virtual elimination of “bottoming out” and vehicle sway.
These shocks generally maintain and, in many cases, enhance a vehicle’s original ride qualities while increasing
road-handling and overall stability.
5100 SERIES
For specific manufactured lift kits utilizing the stock OEM mounting configuration.
Self-adjusting deflective disc valving, Independent rebound and compression with superior control for larger diameter tires.
RALLE, RACE
For rigorous demands of driving competition. Their success should be measured by the unprecedented levels of acceptance
and use by professional drivers in virtually all major Motorsports.
Include such features as spherical bearings, adjustable spring seats longer or shorter than standard dimensions. *Not suited
for street use.
. Your real time info has helped greatly. Koni's are another possiblty.
but the price.
