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Old 05-15-2006, 10:26 PM
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I took out the A/C system in my 78 and I need to run a belt from the crank to the water pump. I've now tried a 36x17(to big), 36x15(to big) 35x17(to small) and a 35x15(to big). There are no more belts left to try and I'm sick of running back and forth to the parts store. Help me please I'm gonna go crazy.
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On non-A/C cars (my 79 anyway...) the water pump belt goes around crank/water pump/alternator. No way to use just crank/pump, how would you adjust tension? Or am I reading your description wrong??
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When I tried it with just the crank water pump alternator belt it sounded like it was slipping I looked in my corvette maunal for a belt diagram and I saw that with no a/c there was a belt around the crank and the pump. So I'm just going by the picture in the book.
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this is an interesting question.

Without the A/c compressor belt a breakage of the alt belt means instant overheating and possible engine damage.

Even a loosly mounted crank to water pump belt would be better than no backup at all.
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My 73 car has said belt. They have it at ZIP and probably other Corvette supply houses.

http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...60F3E9DBB06C99
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On my 78, no ac:

7320 Gates XL 10A0815 (crank to pump)

2nd belt to ps

3rd belt to alt
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How do you put on a belt from the crank to water pump. There is no tensioner pulley.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
How do you put on a belt from the crank to water pump. There is no tensioner pulley.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
How do you put on a belt from the crank to water pump. There is no tensioner pulley.
I have said belt on my 77' with no a/c. One around the crank and water pump, one around the crank, waterpump, power steering, and alternator.

I undo the alternator belt, remove the mechanical fan (mine is electric now), and slide the water pump puley off. Belt comes right along with it! Reverse to replace. It doesn't seem to have a lot of tension on it, but it may not need too much since it has a contact patch of almost half the pulley. The one going to the alternator barely catches the water pump, perhaps 30 degrees of it.

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Yep, there is always a belt between the waterpump and crank when no AC/no PS. I just get the belt started on the WP pulley, then bump the engine over with the starter (coil wire disconnected) and it pops right on.

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Just checked my 69 AIM...they show various belt configurations...including a belt from crank to waterpump (no A/C-PS) on the 350 engine..
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Its that simple.

This extra belt would have saved me from overheating and warping both heads on the way to Mt. Tremblant last summer.

i am an idiot.

i will have my mistress give me 40 additional lashes this week.

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Well I found the correct fitting belt 34.5x17. Took alot of messing around and swearing but I got it to work.
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Originally Posted by JustinD
Well I found the correct fitting belt 34.5x17. Took alot of messing around and swearing but I got it to work.

is that size in inches? The belts i've seen are in metric.

34.5" * 25.4 = 876mm ???
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Originally Posted by JustinD
I took out the A/C system in my 78 and I need to run a belt from the crank to the water pump. I've now tried a 36x17(to big), 36x15(to big) 35x17(to small) and a 35x15(to big). There are no more belts left to try and I'm sick of running back and forth to the parts store. Help me please I'm gonna go crazy.
I see you found the right size. I used a Advanced Auto Dayco 15345
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Originally Posted by JustinD
Well I found the correct fitting belt 34.5x17. Took alot of messing around and swearing but I got it to work.

Glad you got it to work

My 70 BB has an idler pulley to adjust the tesion. It is located on the drivers side halfway between the crank and the waterpump.


Here it is at Zip:

69-74 427/454 W/AC IDLER PULLEY
Product Number: M-2337
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Everyone keeps ditching their A/C sytems...I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Everyone keeps ditching their A/C sytems...I don't get it.
they don't work on our cars, so why carry the extra weight?
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
they don't work on our cars, so why carry the extra weight?
I'm in the "fix, don't scrap" school of thought.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
I'm in the "fix, don't scrap" school of thought.
how many weeks of the year do you really need a/c where you live. Its not worth it for me.


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