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Old 11-27-2017, 09:04 PM
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I have been recovering the seats for my 1975 coupe, last time I undertook this was about 20 years ago when I put seat covers on my '69 and '64.

For this project I got the foam/covers/installation kits from Willcox and everything has gone fine. I had a few misfires with the hog rings so out of curiosity I looked for some at both my local Lowes and Tractor Supply. Lowes had nothing but Tractor Supply had something that looked pretty close.




I realize they say "For Veterinary Use Only" but I, like most Americans, pride myself on committing three felonies a day (
https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229
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I used about 10 of these to finish up the seats and I think they actually work quite a bit better.


Standard installation kit hog ring on left, Tractor Supply ring on the right.

When they crimp, at least with my hog ring pliers, they line up very nicely and create a perfect triangle which seems to be at least as strong as the ones that come with the installation kit. When trying to connect the seat covers to the back of the frame, it is much easier to get them into the slots on the frame and the fact that they are interlocking seems to make attached much more securely.

On the downside they are not galvanized, and instead are copper plated, but in every other way the seem at least as good.

Any thoughts on this?

Scott
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Originally Posted by ScottEwine
I have been recovering the seats for my 1975 coupe, last time I undertook this was about 20 years ago when I put seat covers on my '69 and '64.

For this project I got the foam/covers/installation kits from Willcox and everything has gone fine. I had a few misfires with the hog rings so out of curiosity I looked for some at both my local Lowes and Tractor Supply. Lowes had nothing but Tractor Supply had something that looked pretty close.




I realize they say "For Veterinary Use Only" but I, like most Americans, pride myself on committing three felonies a day (https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonie.../dp/1594035229).

I used about 10 of these to finish up the seats and I think they actually work quite a bit better.


Standard installation kit hog ring on left, Tractor Supply ring on the right.

When they crimp, at least with my hog ring pliers, they line up very nicely and create a perfect triangle which seems to be at least as strong as the ones that come with the installation kit. When trying to connect the seat covers to the back of the frame, it is much easier to get them into the slots on the frame and the fact that they are interlocking seems to make attached much more securely.

On the downside they are not galvanized, and instead are copper plated, but in every other way the seem at least as good.

Any thoughts on this?

Scott
Back in the 70's and early 80's that's about all we had to use.... The wires that come in the install kit all had to be hand made if they were bad too... royal pain....

You'll be fine. I'm not sure they are as strong as the actual rings but on your car all your doing with the rings is hooking the lower frame zig zag springs to the cushion so there's not a lot of issue or stress there.

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I used hog rings & pliers that I bought at an Agway store . This was at least 20 years ago and have had no problems ever .
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I am sure those will work just fine. I recently recovered a set of seats and just used hog rings easily available on Amazon.
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A split metal ring usually with beveled points that can be pushed through the median cartilage of the nose of a pig and there locked to prevent rooting or to serve as a means of leading the animal you can also use it as an upholstery fastener.

Origin Mid 17th century
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I know of some ladies that have used said rings but not in their noses.
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Originally Posted by ScottEwine
I realize they say "For Veterinary Use Only" but I, like most Americans, pride myself on committing three felonies a day (https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonie.../dp/1594035229). Scott
Scott, I'm a Veterinarian and I can write you a prescription for those Hog Rings if you get into any legal trouble over them......
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Originally Posted by Mr D.
A split metal ring usually with beveled points that can be pushed through the median cartilage of the nose of a pig and there locked to prevent rooting or to serve as a means of leading the animal you can also use it as an upholstery fastener.

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Ha ha ha.. I grew up on a farm in Southern Kentucy, been there done that too..
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I'm sorry I grow up in the big city!!!!1 So I have to ask, what would the rings be used for in a veterinarian situation? I hope it not something dumb!!!! Ike
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You've never seen those overweight girls with them in their noses and navels? Where do you think they got their name?
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Yeah but what was the purpose of putting a ring in the piggies nose for?? Ike
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Yeah but what was the purpose of putting a ring in the piggies nose for?? Ike
It stops them from rooting the ground....
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AHHHH thank you!!!!! The city boy learns something!!!! Ike
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AHHHH thank you!!!!! The city boy learns something!!!! Ike
You've probably see pictures of big Bulls with a big brass ring in their nose too, these are used to lead and to be able to better control them, hence the saying "being lead around by the nose"......(not that any Woman has ever done that to me )
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If those rings are 100% pure copper, they won't be nearly as strong as steel pieces. Also, pure copper will 'age' over time and lose strength and oxidize. Steel pieces will rust (oxidize), but not much strength will be lost.

You are going to do this job ONCE. You'll probably be OK with the copper rings....

If they are copper ALLOY, they might be much stronger than pure copper rings.

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If those rings are 100% pure copper, they won't be nearly as strong as steel pieces. Also, pure copper will 'age' over time and lose strength and oxidize. Steel pieces will rust (oxidize), but not much strength will be lost.

You are going to do this job ONCE. You'll probably be OK with the copper rings....

If they are copper ALLOY, they might be much stronger than pure copper rings.
They are steel, but clad with copper similar to being galvanized with zinc. I did a few rudimentary tests and they seem to be as strong as the steel ones that came with the installation kit.
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If the leather is pig-skin (which I quite doubt), it should be OK...

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