Selecting a 1969 Side Pipe Exhaust
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Burning Brakes
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Selecting a 1969 Side Pipe Exhaust
Only side pipe exhaust I'm familiar with is Hooker, which I love, but is pretty pricey.
I see aluminized versus stainless steel. I see fiberglass covered. I see the original factory offered look versus the hooker header to side pipe look.
If you were going to add a side pipe exhaust system to a 1969, which system would you select, and why? Pricing estimate? I'd like to find something that will last over time and not rust badly (with care), have a nice deep muscle sound, and look good.
I see aluminized versus stainless steel. I see fiberglass covered. I see the original factory offered look versus the hooker header to side pipe look.
If you were going to add a side pipe exhaust system to a 1969, which system would you select, and why? Pricing estimate? I'd like to find something that will last over time and not rust badly (with care), have a nice deep muscle sound, and look good.
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hard for someone else to tell you which system looks better. Have you looked at the OBX systems?
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Only side pipe exhaust I'm familiar with is Hooker, which I love, but is pretty pricey.
I see aluminized versus stainless steel. I see fiberglass covered. I see the original factory offered look versus the hooker header to side pipe look.
If you were going to add a side pipe exhaust system to a 1969, which system would you select, and why? Pricing estimate? I'd like to find something that will last over time and not rust badly (with care), have a nice deep muscle sound, and look good.
I see aluminized versus stainless steel. I see fiberglass covered. I see the original factory offered look versus the hooker header to side pipe look.
If you were going to add a side pipe exhaust system to a 1969, which system would you select, and why? Pricing estimate? I'd like to find something that will last over time and not rust badly (with care), have a nice deep muscle sound, and look good.
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I went with the completely original design, from Paragon and Allen's Exhaust. The pipes were supposedly the "quiet" ones... I'd hate to hear what the loud ones sound like.
I actually got used to the noise and now I like it, although the sound is much nicer at higher RPM.
I actually got used to the noise and now I like it, although the sound is much nicer at higher RPM.
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Not sure what size engine you have, but bear in mind that the "factory" style sidepipe exhaust is, in essence, a factory exhaust that happens to exit out of the side of the car. This means that most of the restrictions that occur with the rear exhaust (the cast exhaust manifold and smaller pipe diameter) are present and accounted for in the '69 style exhaust.
A Hooker or OBX style exhaust, however, has 4 individual pipes that exit the side of the car individually and collect into a single 4" pipe...that's the thing that travels along the side of the car. From a performance perspective, this has a real impact, especially if you're playing in the upper RPM's of a big block engine.
Not saying anything bad about the "factory" style system...I'm sure they go down the road just fine. Just pointing out a fairly significant difference between the two.
Beyond that, the size/style of insert you put in the Hooker/OBX system will further alter both the sound and performance of the car. Regular Hooker reverse-flows being the most restrictive and an STS baffle with the center cap removed being the least restrictive.
So the decision is what you want. Look vs. performance is a big one. Shiny vs. black is another big one. I'd either do painted or full-on stainless...I wouldn't fiddle with a plated system as this will only be a headache later down the line.
I got a 'scratch and dent' deal on my headers for $300 (black painted). My side tubes were $300, and my STS inserts were $300. And, of course, I needed the SteelShield for $400. So all-in for a painted system, I'm about $1,400. And I love it.
A Hooker or OBX style exhaust, however, has 4 individual pipes that exit the side of the car individually and collect into a single 4" pipe...that's the thing that travels along the side of the car. From a performance perspective, this has a real impact, especially if you're playing in the upper RPM's of a big block engine.
Not saying anything bad about the "factory" style system...I'm sure they go down the road just fine. Just pointing out a fairly significant difference between the two.
Beyond that, the size/style of insert you put in the Hooker/OBX system will further alter both the sound and performance of the car. Regular Hooker reverse-flows being the most restrictive and an STS baffle with the center cap removed being the least restrictive.
So the decision is what you want. Look vs. performance is a big one. Shiny vs. black is another big one. I'd either do painted or full-on stainless...I wouldn't fiddle with a plated system as this will only be a headache later down the line.
I got a 'scratch and dent' deal on my headers for $300 (black painted). My side tubes were $300, and my STS inserts were $300. And, of course, I needed the SteelShield for $400. So all-in for a painted system, I'm about $1,400. And I love it.
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I don't want to recommend one vs the other, but I'll share my opinion...
On a '69 that's a nice performance cruiser, I think the factory sidepipes are perfect. They look great with just about all wheel/tire combo and paint colors.
If the car is more of a modified, updated or performance style (street machine) I think the hookers/OBXs are hard to beat...that's what all the race prepped cars of the day used. I also think the look of polished TTII wheels augments the shiny primaries perfectly. Even more so on a bumper car...it's the perfect amount of shiny bits that compliment each other.
I also think the curved/rounded shapes of the aftermarket style exhaust suits the '68/'69 best. On a '70-'72 with their more angular trim, I think the factory covers are the best match...for looks...
There is also a '68 or '69 on the forum with C2 styled factory exhaust that looks great...if you really want to have people scratching their head...
On a '69 that's a nice performance cruiser, I think the factory sidepipes are perfect. They look great with just about all wheel/tire combo and paint colors.
If the car is more of a modified, updated or performance style (street machine) I think the hookers/OBXs are hard to beat...that's what all the race prepped cars of the day used. I also think the look of polished TTII wheels augments the shiny primaries perfectly. Even more so on a bumper car...it's the perfect amount of shiny bits that compliment each other.
I also think the curved/rounded shapes of the aftermarket style exhaust suits the '68/'69 best. On a '70-'72 with their more angular trim, I think the factory covers are the best match...for looks...
There is also a '68 or '69 on the forum with C2 styled factory exhaust that looks great...if you really want to have people scratching their head...
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Thanks for the input so far, very appreciated. Duh - forgot to put that it's a 350ci 350hp L46.
Included picture.
Would like to complement the chrome wheels. Like the stainless. The Paragon's are beautiful. Not looking for quiet, and wouldn't mind any enhancement to performance.
Included picture.
Would like to complement the chrome wheels. Like the stainless. The Paragon's are beautiful. Not looking for quiet, and wouldn't mind any enhancement to performance.
Last edited by harmonyp; 07-23-2014 at 09:01 PM.
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one of the few vehicles every built with side pipes from the factory !
but if you do not mind louder, and want performance gain, you do not want OEM.
I used OEM covers and SweetThunder pipes.
but if you do not mind louder, and want performance gain, you do not want OEM.
I used OEM covers and SweetThunder pipes.
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I went with the completely original design, from Paragon and Allen's Exhaust. The pipes were supposedly the "quiet" ones... I'd hate to hear what the loud ones sound like.
I actually got used to the noise and now I like it, although the sound is much nicer at higher RPM.
I actually got used to the noise and now I like it, although the sound is much nicer at higher RPM.