1968 C3 on eBay: What do I need to know?
#42
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The lower firewall and under car splash/heat shields are missing as well.
The transmission is stamped 18S406662 P8T04
P - Muncie
8 - 68 model year
T - December
04 - 4th (Built Dec 4, 1967 for model year 68)
VIN 18S406662 was built in Dec. 1967
Your Trim Tag looks like it shows L12 which would be a July 1968 build.
The transmission is stamped 18S406662 P8T04
P - Muncie
8 - 68 model year
T - December
04 - 4th (Built Dec 4, 1967 for model year 68)
VIN 18S406662 was built in Dec. 1967
Your Trim Tag looks like it shows L12 which would be a July 1968 build.
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#43
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I'd try to get my $500 deposit back
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#45
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What kind of idiot, would stack a convertible top on the floor like that, with no protection whatsover underneath!!!
And they painted, right over the Trim Tag! Aaak! It would've taken ten seconds to mask that off, with some blue painters tape and a razorblade. We have a shop and we thoroughly respect the cars that are in there. We don't lean on em, don't touch the paint on them and are very, very careful.
And they painted, right over the Trim Tag! Aaak! It would've taken ten seconds to mask that off, with some blue painters tape and a razorblade. We have a shop and we thoroughly respect the cars that are in there. We don't lean on em, don't touch the paint on them and are very, very careful.
My total purchase price is for $14,900.00. I do want to bring this closer if not all the way as possible to a complete 1968 "original" restoration, and I have the funds to do so as long as it doesn't mount up to the cost of a brand new Vette. I also have the time and patience to do so, but I don't have the experience. I'd like to find a local shop or join a local group (in Dallas, TX) to learn and shadow and eventually work with on the more heavy mechanical issues.
You could find yourself being 25k into this car just correcting what's incorrect. That's before new paint, new interior, new top, rebuilt drivetrain, etc.
When the car is being inspected, I would see if your guy (or gal) can give you a sense of costs associated. If you see the bigger picture of what's involved here, it may make more sense to pay more up front for a car that requires less.
When I bought my car ('72 convertible), it had 10k in body restoration and new paint already done, but nothing else. I just systematically went through the restoration of the car over the next several years.
Thing was, nothing was missing from the car, and all existing parts were correct. No molestation whatsoever. Any subsequent dollars were just spent on making things new.
Like any project, try and figure out what you want to spend to achieve your goal, and then determine if this car will allow you to stay within your budget. Remember, there are a lot of these cars out there.
Good luck.
#46
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C4's were great cars....functionally (well, except for the 4+3 thing). But, the buying market doesn't care that much for the styling; and Americans buy stuff for LOOKS, not function. For those that want a good "vehicle", C4's will still have a life. But, I doubt that they will ever be in demand like C1/C2/C3 Corvettes.
#47
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For the money it looks ok to me. Starter in the pic is not near right along with a bunch of other things but the car looks good for it's age. Nice old car but nothing special. I kind of like it....
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I compared this one to mine and agree!
What kind of idiot, would stack a convertible top on the floor like that, with no protection whatsover underneath!!!
And they painted, right over the Trim Tag! Aaak! It would've taken ten seconds to mask that off, with some blue painters tape and a razorblade. We have a shop and we thoroughly respect the cars that are in there. We don't lean on em, don't touch the paint on them and are very, very careful. Forgive me, but stuff like that, just pisses me off. Rant over!
And they painted, right over the Trim Tag! Aaak! It would've taken ten seconds to mask that off, with some blue painters tape and a razorblade. We have a shop and we thoroughly respect the cars that are in there. We don't lean on em, don't touch the paint on them and are very, very careful. Forgive me, but stuff like that, just pisses me off. Rant over!
If you can get your $500 back and have another $8K or so to put with your $14,999 and have a little patience and shop around and you can find a nice number's matching original correct paint nice one that needs little like mine.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...ter-23710.html
Also on the top The chrome plated strips on the top are not aftermarket reproduced, so if it's dented or the chrome is scraped off you have to fine another which will be difficult to find at best. The other stupid way of storing these tops is on the end tips leaning against the wall. The tips are fiberglass and damaged by the weight. You can always cover with the chrome tips that they came out with in '69 and later, but you said you wanted to restore it and the '68 had no tips.
Good luck
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#49
NCRS representative had the inspection done this morning. A few highlights:
1. It's a decent car that has aged a bit. The underside has aged, there is cracking around the battery seating, but there has been no wreck or impact or rusting on the frame itself.
2. The front and rear suspension is OK, functional for now - need to replace bushings, but can't tell on the bearings or universal joints yet. He recommends taking care of the suspension down the road but doesn't need it now to be driven.
3. Tires are 5 years old, look new but they could go bad quickly - recommends replacing them.
4. Front brake had rusted calipers, the guy put WD40 on it and rubbed the rust away and now it looks fine. Breaks were a bit iffy on the initial go but after the test drive went a few minutes in, they responded nicely. He recommends replacing the brake lines and flushing the system.
5. Wheels are from a 1969+ model, and a little wider than the original; custom wheels were on there before these new 8" were put on, and he says they look good and will be good for performance.
6. Headlights, wipers, dash lights, brake lights, etc. all work. Fuel gauge has an issue that he thinks is just a fuse.
7. The car starts great, runs great, sounds great. It is a verified factory original numbers matching rear and engine (rebuilt) that is strong and the transmission is smooth. The original transmission is included with the purchase and can be nursed back to health.
8. Interior is original and OK - aging, but OK. Dash has a bit of a crack but is fine for now. The top is new. Radiator has been replaced, a fan was placed inside with a switch that can cool the engine beyond "natural" if needed. Otherwise, the rest is original.
9. Wiring is functional but old - he recommends I re-do the engine wiring harness and clean it up a bit. Some fiberoptics work and some don't.
10. The body may have been hit on the left rear corner and front right corner. There is stress cracking around the headlights and hood, may be a replaced fender on the front right. The front valence hit a curb and has been repaired but the spoiler is missing. The doors fit ok, and there is a gap on top that is not level for the convertible top but he thinks we can shim it and says all of the body issues this can all be addressed when the vehicle is painted.
11. The hood is not original and is a big block hood that can be replaced with a small block hood to fit the original.
12. Recommendations are to replace door handles, new hoses, check wheel bearings and universals, replace brake lines, flush the system and it is good to go for now to drive and down the road slowly but surely replace the parts that are not original.
All in all, he thinks I'm getting a good deal for the money and should proceed. I am doing so. Will post photos of progress as I go.
Thanks again, guys
1. It's a decent car that has aged a bit. The underside has aged, there is cracking around the battery seating, but there has been no wreck or impact or rusting on the frame itself.
2. The front and rear suspension is OK, functional for now - need to replace bushings, but can't tell on the bearings or universal joints yet. He recommends taking care of the suspension down the road but doesn't need it now to be driven.
3. Tires are 5 years old, look new but they could go bad quickly - recommends replacing them.
4. Front brake had rusted calipers, the guy put WD40 on it and rubbed the rust away and now it looks fine. Breaks were a bit iffy on the initial go but after the test drive went a few minutes in, they responded nicely. He recommends replacing the brake lines and flushing the system.
5. Wheels are from a 1969+ model, and a little wider than the original; custom wheels were on there before these new 8" were put on, and he says they look good and will be good for performance.
6. Headlights, wipers, dash lights, brake lights, etc. all work. Fuel gauge has an issue that he thinks is just a fuse.
7. The car starts great, runs great, sounds great. It is a verified factory original numbers matching rear and engine (rebuilt) that is strong and the transmission is smooth. The original transmission is included with the purchase and can be nursed back to health.
8. Interior is original and OK - aging, but OK. Dash has a bit of a crack but is fine for now. The top is new. Radiator has been replaced, a fan was placed inside with a switch that can cool the engine beyond "natural" if needed. Otherwise, the rest is original.
9. Wiring is functional but old - he recommends I re-do the engine wiring harness and clean it up a bit. Some fiberoptics work and some don't.
10. The body may have been hit on the left rear corner and front right corner. There is stress cracking around the headlights and hood, may be a replaced fender on the front right. The front valence hit a curb and has been repaired but the spoiler is missing. The doors fit ok, and there is a gap on top that is not level for the convertible top but he thinks we can shim it and says all of the body issues this can all be addressed when the vehicle is painted.
11. The hood is not original and is a big block hood that can be replaced with a small block hood to fit the original.
12. Recommendations are to replace door handles, new hoses, check wheel bearings and universals, replace brake lines, flush the system and it is good to go for now to drive and down the road slowly but surely replace the parts that are not original.
All in all, he thinks I'm getting a good deal for the money and should proceed. I am doing so. Will post photos of progress as I go.
Thanks again, guys
#52
Melting Slicks
Agree.
I agree, This is a good 68 you can drive and have fun with at a pretty decent price.
Thanks for the followup report.
And if you ever decide to fully restore, you have the basic inputs to do it.
IMHO, I would drive it for a year and then decide if you want to spend coins to get it 100% original. You might decide to just take care of the basics and enjoy it. Either choice is ok and do what makes you happy.
Thanks for the followup report.
And if you ever decide to fully restore, you have the basic inputs to do it.
IMHO, I would drive it for a year and then decide if you want to spend coins to get it 100% original. You might decide to just take care of the basics and enjoy it. Either choice is ok and do what makes you happy.
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#53
Melting Slicks
Congrats, a lot of people would have ran away, but you got a great deal on a good driver. Enjoy. Not everyone needs to have an NCRS trailer queen.
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I agree, This is a good 68 you can drive and have fun with at a pretty decent price.
Thanks for the followup report.
And if you ever decide to fully restore, you have the basic inputs to do it.
IMHO, I would drive it for a year and then decide if you want to spend coins to get it 100% original. You might decide to just take care of the basics and enjoy it. Either choice is ok and do what makes you happy.
Thanks for the followup report.
And if you ever decide to fully restore, you have the basic inputs to do it.
IMHO, I would drive it for a year and then decide if you want to spend coins to get it 100% original. You might decide to just take care of the basics and enjoy it. Either choice is ok and do what makes you happy.
I recommend you take that list and price it out, while you're driving and enjoying it. You are going to be surprised how fast that number grows. Also keep your eye on the value of the top level equilivant '68, so you know when you are past the point of return. You can certainly continure spending money on it, but don't expect to get that back.
Remember I have a '68 numbers matching L-79, 4spd close ration and if you get to a point that you need a picture of an area, I'd be glad to take and send.
It's not a '68 but an '82 Collector Edition and I just picked up for $13,000
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...ion-40262.html
Good luck and don't forget the pictures if you need them.
God Bless,
rick
#56
what about the engine originality
NCRS representative had the inspection done this morning. A few highlights:
1. It's a decent car that has aged a bit. The underside has aged, there is cracking around the battery seating, but there has been no wreck or impact or rusting on the frame itself.
2. The front and rear suspension is OK, functional for now - need to replace bushings, but can't tell on the bearings or universal joints yet. He recommends taking care of the suspension down the road but doesn't need it now to be driven.
3. Tires are 5 years old, look new but they could go bad quickly - recommends replacing them.
4. Front brake had rusted calipers, the guy put WD40 on it and rubbed the rust away and now it looks fine. Breaks were a bit iffy on the initial go but after the test drive went a few minutes in, they responded nicely. He recommends replacing the brake lines and flushing the system.
5. Wheels are from a 1969+ model, and a little wider than the original; custom wheels were on there before these new 8" were put on, and he says they look good and will be good for performance.
6. Headlights, wipers, dash lights, brake lights, etc. all work. Fuel gauge has an issue that he thinks is just a fuse.
7. The car starts great, runs great, sounds great. It is a verified factory original numbers matching rear and engine (rebuilt) that is strong and the transmission is smooth. The original transmission is included with the purchase and can be nursed back to health.
8. Interior is original and OK - aging, but OK. Dash has a bit of a crack but is fine for now. The top is new. Radiator has been replaced, a fan was placed inside with a switch that can cool the engine beyond "natural" if needed. Otherwise, the rest is original.
9. Wiring is functional but old - he recommends I re-do the engine wiring harness and clean it up a bit. Some fiberoptics work and some don't.
10. The body may have been hit on the left rear corner and front right corner. There is stress cracking around the headlights and hood, may be a replaced fender on the front right. The front valence hit a curb and has been repaired but the spoiler is missing. The doors fit ok, and there is a gap on top that is not level for the convertible top but he thinks we can shim it and says all of the body issues this can all be addressed when the vehicle is painted.
11. The hood is not original and is a big block hood that can be replaced with a small block hood to fit the original.
12. Recommendations are to replace door handles, new hoses, check wheel bearings and universals, replace brake lines, flush the system and it is good to go for now to drive and down the road slowly but surely replace the parts that are not original.
All in all, he thinks I'm getting a good deal for the money and should proceed. I am doing so. Will post photos of progress as I go.
Thanks again, guys
1. It's a decent car that has aged a bit. The underside has aged, there is cracking around the battery seating, but there has been no wreck or impact or rusting on the frame itself.
2. The front and rear suspension is OK, functional for now - need to replace bushings, but can't tell on the bearings or universal joints yet. He recommends taking care of the suspension down the road but doesn't need it now to be driven.
3. Tires are 5 years old, look new but they could go bad quickly - recommends replacing them.
4. Front brake had rusted calipers, the guy put WD40 on it and rubbed the rust away and now it looks fine. Breaks were a bit iffy on the initial go but after the test drive went a few minutes in, they responded nicely. He recommends replacing the brake lines and flushing the system.
5. Wheels are from a 1969+ model, and a little wider than the original; custom wheels were on there before these new 8" were put on, and he says they look good and will be good for performance.
6. Headlights, wipers, dash lights, brake lights, etc. all work. Fuel gauge has an issue that he thinks is just a fuse.
7. The car starts great, runs great, sounds great. It is a verified factory original numbers matching rear and engine (rebuilt) that is strong and the transmission is smooth. The original transmission is included with the purchase and can be nursed back to health.
8. Interior is original and OK - aging, but OK. Dash has a bit of a crack but is fine for now. The top is new. Radiator has been replaced, a fan was placed inside with a switch that can cool the engine beyond "natural" if needed. Otherwise, the rest is original.
9. Wiring is functional but old - he recommends I re-do the engine wiring harness and clean it up a bit. Some fiberoptics work and some don't.
10. The body may have been hit on the left rear corner and front right corner. There is stress cracking around the headlights and hood, may be a replaced fender on the front right. The front valence hit a curb and has been repaired but the spoiler is missing. The doors fit ok, and there is a gap on top that is not level for the convertible top but he thinks we can shim it and says all of the body issues this can all be addressed when the vehicle is painted.
11. The hood is not original and is a big block hood that can be replaced with a small block hood to fit the original.
12. Recommendations are to replace door handles, new hoses, check wheel bearings and universals, replace brake lines, flush the system and it is good to go for now to drive and down the road slowly but surely replace the parts that are not original.
All in all, he thinks I'm getting a good deal for the money and should proceed. I am doing so. Will post photos of progress as I go.
Thanks again, guys
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#58
Car arrived today, has some brake issues and needs a bit of work here and there, I have it in the shop to get a new battery and check on the brakes and suspension, wearables, etc. Will post photos of my own when I get the chance. Pretty excited!
#59
And you should be! For the price, you got a decent deal. $10k to $15k is as cheap as it gets for a chrome bumper convertible that moves under its own power and hasn't been butchered. I bought mine last year in even less original condition, and am still thrilled with it.
You've just got to ask yourself whether it matters all that much to you personally whether it has a date-correct alternator, starter, transmission, and so forth. Did you buy the car to drive, or to parade around to shows and be judged? All the nay-sayers like to say you'll have to spend a fortune "making it right". Well, none of that makes it drive any better. And for now, it sounds like you wanted a convertible Corvette to drive around in since the bike had to be parked.
I like to think this car has a better hood than stock, better wheels than stock, better radio than stock, and a better paint color than stock. Can't beat that.
You've just got to ask yourself whether it matters all that much to you personally whether it has a date-correct alternator, starter, transmission, and so forth. Did you buy the car to drive, or to parade around to shows and be judged? All the nay-sayers like to say you'll have to spend a fortune "making it right". Well, none of that makes it drive any better. And for now, it sounds like you wanted a convertible Corvette to drive around in since the bike had to be parked.
I like to think this car has a better hood than stock, better wheels than stock, better radio than stock, and a better paint color than stock. Can't beat that.
#60
Mechanic said the brake lines are contaminated and need to be flushed. I told him I wanted to buy new lines instead and replace it all. Cost was $2k for parts and labor without the metal lines. Do you guys have a good idea where I can buy the parts, both rubber and metal?