Good Buy or Good Bye...68 coupe
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I just purchased a 68 coupe for $3900. I am a fairly new member, though I don't post often, I often visit the forums and am an avid reader. Looking for some advise on this car. I am a first time Vette buyer and lifetime admirer.
It is a mid year 68 with NOM small block with auto. Needs door panels, and dash pad. Also needs rocker panels and has fiber glass damage around headlights and missing grilles. It has power steering, A/C, and pop out rear glass. I read the 10 rules to buying a C3 and found this one local in TN. Dang near rust free, don't even plan on doing a frame off (yeah it as that good) and bird cage is extremely solid along with all the chrome trim. Missing one body mount bushing but all mounts look
and feel amazing. Have everything else...bumpers, small block hood, seats, consoles and all the stuff I can think of right now.
I am not a purist, so the NOM doesn't bother me and will eventually be upgrading the car to a BB 4speed with side pipes and a stinger hood (just like the way it looks). But do now my goal is to have a running, driving and presentable dream car I can call my own. All of the work is within my or a friends abilities. Trying to get the presentable daily for less than another $8-10k, is it possible?
I value everyone's opinion and enjoy learning new things. I would like to know if I should sell and cut my losses or keep her for ever. And would like to know an estimated value of the car to know if I got taken or stole it or somewhere in between.
It is a mid year 68 with NOM small block with auto. Needs door panels, and dash pad. Also needs rocker panels and has fiber glass damage around headlights and missing grilles. It has power steering, A/C, and pop out rear glass. I read the 10 rules to buying a C3 and found this one local in TN. Dang near rust free, don't even plan on doing a frame off (yeah it as that good) and bird cage is extremely solid along with all the chrome trim. Missing one body mount bushing but all mounts look
and feel amazing. Have everything else...bumpers, small block hood, seats, consoles and all the stuff I can think of right now.
I am not a purist, so the NOM doesn't bother me and will eventually be upgrading the car to a BB 4speed with side pipes and a stinger hood (just like the way it looks). But do now my goal is to have a running, driving and presentable dream car I can call my own. All of the work is within my or a friends abilities. Trying to get the presentable daily for less than another $8-10k, is it possible?
I value everyone's opinion and enjoy learning new things. I would like to know if I should sell and cut my losses or keep her for ever. And would like to know an estimated value of the car to know if I got taken or stole it or somewhere in between.
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Methinks you're right on the edge of break-even here. From a sentimental perspective I'd rather see the car brought back than parted out and I think you could get there within the stated budget. The one issue with '68s is that there are numerous parts that are peculiar to 1968 only which can make certain items very hard to get if they're missing...but I say jump in and do it.
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Here is my 1975 I sold in January 2013 for about what you spent on your 68. I pulled it out of a barn along with close to another C3 in parts for $900 and it had sat since 1979. Somebody had tried to restore it multiple times before I found it.
I was going to turn it into a driver and slowly turn it into a restored car over time, but I just became way too busy and overloaded with projects. So I sold it to a guy who had a tornado cause his garage to collapse on top of his 68. He bought my 75 and parts for the purpose of trying to fix his 68. I was kinda sad to see it was going to be parted out, but at the end of the day I needed it gone and I had extra money in my pocket. So why share this with you? Well, for the money I would take your 68, even though my 75 was rare (less than about 300 cars were built like mine, and it had 3,700 miles on it) I like the early C3s best. Thats why I still own my 72 after all of the vettes I have owned. As long as you can re use as much of whats already there, I would say that you could really turn that into a nicer looking driver 68. I would say that if the 68 was my car, I would buy a new 1 piece front end for $1,500 and have it put on. By doing so, it would really add value in my opinion. But you can fix the front end damage and replace the grills for probably much less. Anyways, I say you ought to just dig in. For the price, and being a 68…doubt you can find another 68 for the price for what it is. Best of Luck!
I was going to turn it into a driver and slowly turn it into a restored car over time, but I just became way too busy and overloaded with projects. So I sold it to a guy who had a tornado cause his garage to collapse on top of his 68. He bought my 75 and parts for the purpose of trying to fix his 68. I was kinda sad to see it was going to be parted out, but at the end of the day I needed it gone and I had extra money in my pocket. So why share this with you? Well, for the money I would take your 68, even though my 75 was rare (less than about 300 cars were built like mine, and it had 3,700 miles on it) I like the early C3s best. Thats why I still own my 72 after all of the vettes I have owned. As long as you can re use as much of whats already there, I would say that you could really turn that into a nicer looking driver 68. I would say that if the 68 was my car, I would buy a new 1 piece front end for $1,500 and have it put on. By doing so, it would really add value in my opinion. But you can fix the front end damage and replace the grills for probably much less. Anyways, I say you ought to just dig in. For the price, and being a 68…doubt you can find another 68 for the price for what it is. Best of Luck!
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First of all congradualtions on your 1st Corvette. I remember mine a 1977 under a pine tree, flat tires, dead battery. After about 15 grand she was close to what I wanted. I am estimating the same for yours. I replaced my engine, and counting body work, paint, interior and other misc parts, wheels and tires budget was blown but 20 years later she still sits pretty in my garage. You will learn so much more by this restoration but you will also learn one restoration is enough.
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Seems like you bought it right. Even if you parted it you would easily get your money back based on the assumption that many of the one year only parts are still with the car. I don't see how you will be within your budget if you bring it back to life though. Body work, paint, interior, mechanicals and all of the things you don't see now plus all of the "while I am at it" items will take you past your budget quickly. If you want a car you built and will gain a lot of knowledge and have fun while doing so then go for it. There is nothing like starting and seeing it through to the finish. If you are looking for a driver buy one you can drive now.
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I think you did just fine. I agree with your view on NOM, just be aware that it'll affect the resale value though an NOM big block with sidepipes may just negate that
I think your budget is just doable as long as you don't get any surprises along the way. Paint, dash pad, door panels and grills will eat all of $10k without effort. The needed body work doesn't look too extensive. From a budget perspective, my concern would be those surprises, especially with a 68. As mentioned above, 68 specific parts can be hard to find and expensive.
I think your budget is just doable as long as you don't get any surprises along the way. Paint, dash pad, door panels and grills will eat all of $10k without effort. The needed body work doesn't look too extensive. From a budget perspective, my concern would be those surprises, especially with a 68. As mentioned above, 68 specific parts can be hard to find and expensive.
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Many dream cars have turned into finacial and emotional nightmares. Do you have the time and skills to restore this car without spending very much for labor? If so make a list of the parts you will need to buy and what a big block and trans will cost you. Be realistic and include the "little things". Then add at least 25% to that. Then you can decide if you should keep it or sell it. If you do keep it you will realize it will take longer and cost more than you thought it would. Good luck with what ever you decide.
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Converting to a 4-speed will also be a pretty expensive endeavor, as well as putting back in stock headlights. Personally, I would see if there are any cherry parts from the car you can keep, any sell the rest to break even. I don't know the market for '68's needing a full resto is, that may or may not be an option.
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A question for those who mention the '68 only parts. Are these just '68 only parts to make a "correct '68"? Can other year parts that function but are not "correct" be used to make a driver? IE, I know that 68's have 68 only door panels but would other years fit?
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Many dream cars have turned into finacial and emotional nightmares. Do you have the time and skills to restore this car without spending very much for labor? If so make a list of the parts you will need to buy and what a big block and trans will cost you. Be realistic and include the "little things". Then add at least 25% to that. Then you can decide if you should keep it or sell it. If you do keep it you will realize it will take longer and cost more than you thought it would. Good luck with what ever you decide.
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First of all congradualtions on your 1st Corvette. I remember mine a 1977 under a pine tree, flat tires, dead battery. After about 15 grand she was close to what I wanted. I am estimating the same for yours. I replaced my engine, and counting body work, paint, interior and other misc parts, wheels and tires budget was blown but 20 years later she still sits pretty in my garage. You will learn so much more by this restoration but you will also learn one restoration is enough.
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These cars are money pits. Do it for the love of the car and the knowledge the process will give you. I believe the best way to save $$ is to make a plan and stick to it as best as you can. There will be surprises; there will be blood.
Have fun with the car. I think you did well, because the bumper cars are desirable. Time to bust some knuckles!
Have fun with the car. I think you did well, because the bumper cars are desirable. Time to bust some knuckles!
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Sounds like you did alright, especially for a car with minimal rust... I can see the $8-10k you mentioned getting eaten up in short order, good thing you and your buds are supplying the labor
Looking forward to seeing progress pics...and welcome to the 68 club
Looking forward to seeing progress pics...and welcome to the 68 club
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It's not a good sign if you are already questioning yourself. BUT, you should be able to have a very good daily driver for another $10,000.
If you/friends do all the work/buy aftermarket parts rather than "genuine parts"/have a moderately priced paint job done, you will have a great-looking dependable car that would cost anyone else $30,000 to build........................
IF you quit second-guessing.
If you/friends do all the work/buy aftermarket parts rather than "genuine parts"/have a moderately priced paint job done, you will have a great-looking dependable car that would cost anyone else $30,000 to build........................
IF you quit second-guessing.
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These cars are money pits. Do it for the love of the car and the knowledge the process will give you. I believe the best way to save $$ is to make a plan and stick to it as best as you can. There will be surprises; there will be blood.
Have fun with the car. I think you did well, because the bumper cars are desirable. Time to bust some knuckles!
Have fun with the car. I think you did well, because the bumper cars are desirable. Time to bust some knuckles!
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It's not a good sign if you are already questioning yourself. BUT, you should be able to have a very good daily driver for another $10,000.
If you/friends do all the work/buy aftermarket parts rather than "genuine parts"/have a moderately priced paint job done, you will have a great-looking dependable car that would cost anyone else $30,000 to build........................
IF you quit second-guessing.
If you/friends do all the work/buy aftermarket parts rather than "genuine parts"/have a moderately priced paint job done, you will have a great-looking dependable car that would cost anyone else $30,000 to build........................
IF you quit second-guessing.
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I just purchased a 68 coupe for $3900. I am a fairly new member, though I don't post often, I often visit the forums and am an avid reader. Looking for some advise on this car. I am a first time Vette buyer and lifetime admirer.
It is a mid year 68 with NOM small block with auto. Needs door panels, and dash pad. Also needs rocker panels and has fiber glass damage around headlights and missing grilles. It has power steering, A/C, and pop out rear glass. I read the 10 rules to buying a C3 and found this one local in TN. Dang near rust free, don't even plan on doing a frame off (yeah it as that good) and bird cage is extremely solid along with all the chrome trim. Missing one body mount bushing but all mounts look
and feel amazing. Have everything else...bumpers, small block hood, seats, consoles and all the stuff I can think of right now.
I am not a purist, so the NOM doesn't bother me and will eventually be upgrading the car to a BB 4speed with side pipes and a stinger hood (just like the way it looks). But do now my goal is to have a running, driving and presentable dream car I can call my own. All of the work is within my or a friends abilities. Trying to get the presentable daily for less than another $8-10k, is it possible?
I value everyone's opinion and enjoy learning new things. I would like to know if I should sell and cut my losses or keep her for ever. And would like to know an estimated value of the car to know if I got taken or stole it or somewhere in between.
It is a mid year 68 with NOM small block with auto. Needs door panels, and dash pad. Also needs rocker panels and has fiber glass damage around headlights and missing grilles. It has power steering, A/C, and pop out rear glass. I read the 10 rules to buying a C3 and found this one local in TN. Dang near rust free, don't even plan on doing a frame off (yeah it as that good) and bird cage is extremely solid along with all the chrome trim. Missing one body mount bushing but all mounts look
and feel amazing. Have everything else...bumpers, small block hood, seats, consoles and all the stuff I can think of right now.
I am not a purist, so the NOM doesn't bother me and will eventually be upgrading the car to a BB 4speed with side pipes and a stinger hood (just like the way it looks). But do now my goal is to have a running, driving and presentable dream car I can call my own. All of the work is within my or a friends abilities. Trying to get the presentable daily for less than another $8-10k, is it possible?
I value everyone's opinion and enjoy learning new things. I would like to know if I should sell and cut my losses or keep her for ever. And would like to know an estimated value of the car to know if I got taken or stole it or somewhere in between.