MosportGreen66

Hey Guys,

I'm interested in purchasing a 69 350/350. Here is the engine pad picture. Please let me know your thoughts. It is painted which for me is a red flag but again please take a look.

Thanks,
Dave

Budman68

Worst I've ever seen........but numbers match.

MosportGreen66

Thanks for the reply. It's a pass.

Best,
Dave

vettebuyer6369

The assembly date (prefix/date/suffix) is unbelievably bad and incomplete.

Paint on a pad doen't necessarily bother me, but after seeing this disaster that could change my mind.

Buds got a point. Its among the worst I've ever seen.

avalonjohn

What a POS...............wow

Stay clear of this one! I've got to know, is the seller actually tellng you it's the original engine??

schmegeggie

I don't know much about engine pads, but I know enough to say, that isn't even close! If he's going to do a re-stamp, he should at least do his homework. Isn't that illegal?

xCCTer

Alan 71

I heard/saw Al Grenning's pad presentation a few weeks ago. He has an absolutely huge library of pad pictures. Some pads from the factory are so bad you just want to laugh.
I've pretty much given up making a call from a picture, and maybe after looking in person, too.
This pad does not seem to be typical of production.
How do the cast date of the cylinder block, and the build date of the engine and car correspond?
Is there any other documentation with the car?
I'm surprised the paint is still on the pad. I'd think the owner would realize that any serious buyer is going to want to see the pad surface. However good or bad it may be.
So ????
Regards,
Alan

PS: We are to believe that we have a pad that both Flint and St. Louis goofed on.

wer2xu

So if your not sure what these guys are talking about...let me see if I can get it right, this more of quiz for myself then anything...that "1" to the left of the serial number is not supposed to be there...all of the other numbers have shadows, but thats not unusual...and this engine was not assembled anywhere on either Thursday 02JAN09, or Sunday 01NOV69, but the month is missing a digit, and there it no T F or V to indicate where it was built.

schmegeggie

Also, the "5" is suppose to be an "S", unless the pic is fooling me.

vettebuyer6369

Not exactly... it could be Jan 02 '69 (not '09), it could be Nov with a missing 1 on the month 02 (not 01) '69. If it was really a Corvette 350 horse the prefix would be a V, not a T or an F.

The 1 to the left of the SN is supposed to be there, however, the "1s" for SN digits are the style with no base... that one is like the assembly date 1s. As stated above, the 5 should be an S.

You kinda got an 80 on your quiz.

Also, Im seeing a shadow of other letters not completely decked at the bottom of the pad... anyone else see it?

vettebuyer6369

PS, the assembly date numbers/letters should appear larger than the SN numbers.

Mike Ward

I doubt that this is an attempt to restamp with intent to deceive, it's most likely a rebuilder's stamp with his own S/N on it. Not rare. Whether the engine is the original that the car came with will never be known for sure.

Did anybody check the casting number and date of the block?

vette442

I saw the listing for that car a few days ago. Lemans Blue/bright blue is a great color combo and factory side exhaust too! - but then I saw that pad photo.

I think their hoped-for price is a bit high - that car needs some $$ thrown at the interior especially. It's okay as-is but has lots of little flaws that will eventually trigger the compulsion to put new carpet, console, trim, etc. in it.

Terry

wer2xu

some photo chopping done on the pictures. notice the disappearing seam on the headlights.

Whats with the goofy inserts on the door panels?
Didn't the factory fill in the rear valance so there is no seam?

I better stop...I just saw that is where I bought my car from, and they were very upfront about the condition...and I was very pleased.

Its hard not to pick at a car.

avalonjohn

just noticed it was just listed on Ebay...............seller says he wants to hear from interested buyers only and not critics, though he claims it's "matching"............well it is, just fake matching........

vettebuyer6369

vettebuyer6369

"Bid with confidence."

It's not an awful car, except for the pad. It brings up an interesting question, though. On one hand, they have a right to not be bothered by wannabe "experts" bugging them about their car for sale. However, when you make a big deal about the "numbers matching" and the "HW" suffix... blah, blah... then show that pad, followed by an entire paragraph warning you not to bug them with criticisms... well.. it kinda suggests they know how phony it is.

Easy Mike

Yup.

Derrick Reynolds

Does that trim tag build date say "O24", or do I need to buy stronger glasses again? What month would "O" be?