anyone ever mode a c3 a targa top? with no "T"
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anyone ever made a c3 a targa top? no "T"
Just curious.....I'm just trying to picture how it would look and trying to think of something different, but will make you question if it came like that stock. The c4's on up have them.
I don't know, it may just look goofy on the c3s. What do you guys think?
I don't know, it may just look goofy on the c3s. What do you guys think?
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No idea how it would be done. But I think it would look pretty bada$$.
If people can turn t-top vette's to verts you can probably make a targa top. maybe? But if the expense would be worth it might be a factor.
-John
If people can turn t-top vette's to verts you can probably make a targa top. maybe? But if the expense would be worth it might be a factor.
-John
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yeah I know the convertible vettes had extra supports/bracing underneath....all convertibles do to make them rigid.
I would think it wouldn't be as expensive as turning a coupe into a convertible or roadster....but my thing is it'd be kind of unique....i'm gonna try a photoshop on a pic of mine with the tops off and the "T" removed.
Like I said I'm just thinking and thought it'd be cool....but wanted to see if anyone's tried/done it. my thought is the targa's kinda the best of both worlds....but then again kinda pointless if you don't have a top for it that you could keep in the car while on the road.
I thought maybe one of those one piece tops they make could work for a top for it....weather stripping would have to be added of course. and i'm sure I could handle making a rear interior piece for the where the T meets the back part...all the rest of the stuff would come from a vert though I think.
thanks for the responses....we'll see
I would think it wouldn't be as expensive as turning a coupe into a convertible or roadster....but my thing is it'd be kind of unique....i'm gonna try a photoshop on a pic of mine with the tops off and the "T" removed.
Like I said I'm just thinking and thought it'd be cool....but wanted to see if anyone's tried/done it. my thought is the targa's kinda the best of both worlds....but then again kinda pointless if you don't have a top for it that you could keep in the car while on the road.
I thought maybe one of those one piece tops they make could work for a top for it....weather stripping would have to be added of course. and i'm sure I could handle making a rear interior piece for the where the T meets the back part...all the rest of the stuff would come from a vert though I think.
thanks for the responses....we'll see
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Here's a one piece smoked clear roof for the C3 for half the price of two T-tops. I wouldn't remove the center bar as that is a structural member.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
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If you read Corvette From the Inside by Dave McLellan you will learn that the C4 was originally designed as a T-top. Late in the game, Lloyd Reuss, who became president of GM, dictated the T bar be removed. The result was the C4 top was a bolt on piece because the chassis was too limp to support a clamp on top. The cars came with a little ratchet torx drive wrench which was used to remove and install the top.
Taking the bar out of a C3 coupe without having the convertible bracing would probably have the same result - a real loose car. The C3 converts are pretty loose as it is. Bolting the hardtop on makes a big difference in the rigidity of the car.
Taking the bar out of a C3 coupe without having the convertible bracing would probably have the same result - a real loose car. The C3 converts are pretty loose as it is. Bolting the hardtop on makes a big difference in the rigidity of the car.
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PeteZO6 If you read Corvette From the Inside by Dave McLellan you will learn that the C4 was originally designed as a T-top. Late in the game, Lloyd Reuss, who became president of GM, dictated the T bar be removed. The result was the C4 top was a bolt on piece because the chassis was too limp to support a clamp on top. The cars came with a little ratchet torx drive wrench which was used to remove and install the top.
Taking the bar out of a C3 coupe without having the convertible bracing would probably have the same result - a real loose car. The C3 converts are pretty loose as it is. Bolting the hardtop on makes a big difference in the rigidity of the car.
Taking the bar out of a C3 coupe without having the convertible bracing would probably have the same result - a real loose car. The C3 converts are pretty loose as it is. Bolting the hardtop on makes a big difference in the rigidity of the car.
I do realize this.....I have already mentioned if I were to to this it would get whatever the vert. has (interior, exterior, frame etc.)....just won't be a vert. I'm just trying to find out if anyone else has done this
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Hi Blue,
I believe the only difference between the coupe and convertible were the 4 braces that were added to cowl structure under the dashboard to reduce 'cowl-shake. Their main responsibility was to stop the steering column from shaking and to help stabilize the hinge pillars. I believe the other differences in the birdcages had to do with the fact that the top needed to be mounted and hidden and had nothing to do with the actual structure.
2 'tabs' need to be welded to the bottom of the windshield frame in the center area of the cowl to mount 1 'end' of 2 of the braces. The rest of the tabs are there.
You might have to add a brace to each lock pillar to stabilize it so the door locks and unlocks well and the gap at the rear of the door can be constant.
Regards,
Alan
PS: I think the 'bar' looks good, it's a little 'old school' looking.
I believe the only difference between the coupe and convertible were the 4 braces that were added to cowl structure under the dashboard to reduce 'cowl-shake. Their main responsibility was to stop the steering column from shaking and to help stabilize the hinge pillars. I believe the other differences in the birdcages had to do with the fact that the top needed to be mounted and hidden and had nothing to do with the actual structure.
2 'tabs' need to be welded to the bottom of the windshield frame in the center area of the cowl to mount 1 'end' of 2 of the braces. The rest of the tabs are there.
You might have to add a brace to each lock pillar to stabilize it so the door locks and unlocks well and the gap at the rear of the door can be constant.
Regards,
Alan
PS: I think the 'bar' looks good, it's a little 'old school' looking.
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Here's a one piece smoked clear roof for the C3 for half the price of two T-tops. I wouldn't remove the center bar as that is a structural member.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
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PS: I think the 'bar' looks good, it's a little 'old school' looking.
thanks for the info....I agree it does have a "old school" feel to it. I'm just thinking of a way to be a little different without going with the the big ground FX and fenders and sidepipes. Not that I don't like them I do! Just trying to keep a clean car and think of something unique/custom that I could do to it while I have it apart.
if I could find an wrecked/junked vert. that I could get parts off cheaply I'm definitley going to consider it....but hey this is even something that could be done after it's painted too.
thanks for the comments/information guys!
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Never thought about that. You could get one of those temporary "raincoat" tops that work at highway speeds and keep the rain out in a pinch. I have one for my C6 so I can leave the targa home. The C6 one is suppose to be for stationary use only though I think.
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Hi Blue,
I believe the only difference between the coupe and convertible were the 4 braces that were added to cowl structure under the dashboard to reduce 'cowl-shake. Their main responsibility was to stop the steering column from shaking and to help stabilize the hinge pillars. I believe the other differences in the birdcages had to do with the fact that the top needed to be mounted and hidden and had nothing to do with the actual structure.
2 'tabs' need to be welded to the bottom of the windshield frame in the center area of the cowl to mount 1 'end' of 2 of the braces. The rest of the tabs are there.
You might have to add a brace to each lock pillar to stabilize it so the door locks and unlocks well and the gap at the rear of the door can be constant.
Regards,
Alan
PS: I think the 'bar' looks good, it's a little 'old school' looking.
I believe the only difference between the coupe and convertible were the 4 braces that were added to cowl structure under the dashboard to reduce 'cowl-shake. Their main responsibility was to stop the steering column from shaking and to help stabilize the hinge pillars. I believe the other differences in the birdcages had to do with the fact that the top needed to be mounted and hidden and had nothing to do with the actual structure.
2 'tabs' need to be welded to the bottom of the windshield frame in the center area of the cowl to mount 1 'end' of 2 of the braces. The rest of the tabs are there.
You might have to add a brace to each lock pillar to stabilize it so the door locks and unlocks well and the gap at the rear of the door can be constant.
Regards,
Alan
PS: I think the 'bar' looks good, it's a little 'old school' looking.
I just came back from a nice top down ride in my non-AC '69 on some very primitive back roads - pot holes and uneven pavement. The shaking was bad enough to cause the door ajar light to flash on and off.
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On the other hand, its not like the t-tops really fit back there very well either.
I do like the storability of the C4 one. Ive stopped more than once and stuck it back in when the weather went south. I stay closer to home when Im in the C3