vettebuyer6369

..but he says they are for "novelty only."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...spagenameZWDVW

I know there's been threads on these before but... $400?

Maybe he will take a spelling class if he sells a couple.

rayluka

fluxuate Is that like flatulance

dodge_ss/t

thats just wrong because you know what people are goung to use thouse for.

vettebuyer6369

That was the best one (there are others). Cracked me up.

bextreme1

Now I can have a fully documented car. Oh, so can everyone else. There are now officially 32,483 1969 427's that were originally made! I'm not sure but I think there are also 953 L88's also

in2fun

MAN, That's crazy and for $400. I know they say there are suckers every where... But I sure hope there's not that big of a sucker out there to buy that.

GPGG70

It's because of this sort of BS out on the market these days, is why I'm going to video record and document the removal of my fuel tank when I go after the Tank sticker, that way there will be no dought about the REAL paperwork that will be offered with my car.
Besides, I'm going to hand down the car to my grandaughter anyway so I dont have to worry about selling it.

JB

I agree it's slimy. I don't agree that the guy's stupid to think he can get $400 for that stuff, since those docs can add several thousand to a car's value. And whatever his spelling skills, those are some pretty damn authentic looking docs, and a pretty extensive set. Now, if he were just selling a POP with that set. . . .

Frankly, the silliness is the thought that the guy who just offered me $36K for my car might be willing to pay $40K if I had the stuff being sold in that auction. Right up there with the notion that a 40 year old barbie doll is worth hundreds of dollars more if the box was never opened.

Did I mention my car's for sale, no paperwork?

JB

70Yellowbird

And ... for an extra 75 bucks, they'll speed up the delivery from 3-4 weeks to 9-10 days ... for the actual documents that are shown in the pic!

I thought they'd be 'aging the paper', but must be they are only 'drying the ink!'

vettebuyer6369

Absolutely true. Slimy, yes. Stupid? Not so much.

Yes, but wouldn't it be hysterical if someone bought the docs and they looked closely and "Corvette" was spelled with one "t" or "close ratio" was "clothes rashioh?"

Actually, I have the occasion to deal with counterfeit docs at work, and it's interesting how beautifully faked some stuff is... and you look closely and see words spelled wrong. I have to assume it's a foreign language thing.

Way back when, the first time I ever received a "phish" scam message, I wasn't fooled because as beautiful at the web site was reproduced, it actually included spelling errors which is pretty common for kids today. Techno-geniuses and they can't spell their way out of a 6th-grade bag.


I dunno, I think this is something that should have value, simply because the fact it's unopened probably indicates it's historically real, sort of the opposite of fake documents. Of course, I sell old toys like that sometimes so I might be biased.

milo30

Yeah but how will we know that you didn't drop the tank and instal the sticker then reassemble for the video of the find? Maybe we could make a video of pulling a tank sticker and sell it on ebay for $200.

capecorvette

hey, you cant fault the guy, he does nice work and he has 100% positive feedback.

7T1vette

Interestingly, the 'crime' is not in creating the documents....the crime is in passing them off as legitimate. And, even if the owner doesn't say that the documents are real, he implies it by providing them to a prospective buyer...and then becomes a felon.

vettebuyer6369

Hmmmm... I wonder about that.

Most forgery statutes have to do with the creation of a document that is meant to deceive (wording is different everywhere). If the document maker produces an exact copy of a '69 L88 tank sticker and sells it for hundreds of dollars, it's hard for him to make the argument that it's "novelty" when it is not selling for $9.99 and doesn't say "for entertainment purposes only" on it somewhere. I think the criminal act argument can be made. This is the reason most people selling VIN tags at swap meets get chased away.

Then you take the buyer of said tank sticker, who suddenly includes it with his car sale. Implied or not, he is now selling the car for a small fortune, and it is documented that he purchased the fake sticker from the sticker maker. Both could be accused of conspiracy to commit fraud, forgery, etc., I think. Intent is always hard to prove, but I don't think it would be impossible to put a circumstantial case together.

chevy69

wow - can't wait to get mine on order

fotyfobravo

Thqat is sooo not Cooool. I sent them an email. I ask if they could make me a set for my PINTO restoration! I will post the reply if I get one.

Fred

Alan 71

This a hobby. Right? We're just having FUN.
I can have MORE fun if I can have some documents, just for FUN. Why are a few pieces of paper worth $400?
Oh, he has more fun if I pay him that much.
Regards,
Alan

7T1vette

The 'huckster' has already stated that he considers the re-constructed documents as "novelty" items....clearing himself of any intent to defraud.

milo30

The only way that anyone would ever get prosecuted for something like this is if the document was completely false as to what options are truly in the car. If you had one of these made up and it represented what the original document had stated then not many if any law enforcement agency would bother with trying to prosecute. I think that it would be hard to even sue for damages. You'd have to prove that that document represented real value in the vehicle.

The ebayer seller pretty much has himself covered. He is free to ask any price and states that it is for display only. I think being able to do this sucks but that's just how some things work I guess.

on1wheel01

That's trash.Might be good for car shows if you need more compensation (having a nice vette should be enough, it is for me). Now ppl are going to try to pass them off when selling cars tisk tisk