67 cluster wiring issue
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67 cluster wiring issue
I am reinstalling the instrument cluster on my 67 coupe.
I have run into a wire that I cannot identify. It wasn't connected when I took the cluster out (as I recall).
It is a heavy gauge brown wire and it is hot when the key is on.
Any ideas what this connects to?
I have run into a wire that I cannot identify. It wasn't connected when I took the cluster out (as I recall).
It is a heavy gauge brown wire and it is hot when the key is on.
Any ideas what this connects to?
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Brown wire is the capacitor for the radio, black wire is the ground for the gauge cluster, the male grounding tab should be on one of the top screws holding the speedometer / tach assembly to the bezel near the headlight/ brake warning bulbs
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It looks like the brown wire for the fan voltage. It should plug onto a tab on the side of the fan switch on the center console.
The fan will have no power without it.
The fan will have no power without it.
Last edited by 65GGvert; 03-07-2024 at 10:19 AM.
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You need the Dr's OOSOEZ wire diagrams. JMHO
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That's the ACC feed to the capacitor for the radio behind the cluster, iirc mounted low near the oil gauge. See section U69 in your AIM.
If you have Power Windows, the PW Harness plugs into it, to provide relay activation power. 1967 requires key to RUN or ACC for PW.
If no Cap is there, and no PW, just tape it off and tuck it up in the harness and you'll be fine.
Rich
If you have Power Windows, the PW Harness plugs into it, to provide relay activation power. 1967 requires key to RUN or ACC for PW.
If no Cap is there, and no PW, just tape it off and tuck it up in the harness and you'll be fine.
Rich
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That's the ACC feed to the capacitor for the radio behind the cluster, iirc mounted low near the oil gauge. See section U69 in your AIM.
If you have Power Windows, the PW Harness plugs into it, to provide relay activation power. 1967 requires key to RUN or ACC for PW.
If no Cap is there, and no PW, just tape it off and tuck it up in the harness and you'll be fine.
Rich
If you have Power Windows, the PW Harness plugs into it, to provide relay activation power. 1967 requires key to RUN or ACC for PW.
If no Cap is there, and no PW, just tape it off and tuck it up in the harness and you'll be fine.
Rich
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A dangling brown wire, that length with a connector like that, should not connect to a condenser. That’s just my opinion, I hope we find out for sure. I’m wrong as much as I’m right, so it would not be a surprise.
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Easy enough to find out. If everything works without it connected then it’s for the capacitor. If there’s already a brown wire on the fan switch then it’s not for the fan. I don’t like the capacitors in the circuit so I wouldn’t connect it if it was for the radio am noise suppression but that’s just me. I don’t have any cars judged and I don’t like 12 V connected when not necessary.
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That appears to be correct, I don't have that diagram nor have I seen that wire, but now I have seen the light. Does anyone know, physically does one lead connect to the ignition switch and the other to the fuse box? I can't figure what it's filtering unless it's the power line on the fuse box to stop am noise when changing the ignition from off or acc to on.
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That appears to be correct, I don't have that diagram nor have I seen that wire, but now I have seen the light. Does anyone know, physically does one lead connect to the ignition switch and the other to the fuse box? I can't figure what it's filtering unless it's the power line on the fuse box to stop am noise when changing the ignition from off or acc to on.
I have a '67 main harness in the shop and I'll get it out later to do a quick continuity test to see it's source. It may be the raw UNFUSED feed from the IGN switch, before the HEATER and RADIO fuse circuits. If it is, then it's also for the Wiper Motor and Washer Pump relay, which do not have a CAP directly mounted to them.
The U69 suppression designers added this Cap, in addition to all the other "anti-clicking" Caps for meters, switches, heater motor, ign coil, flashers, etc), and it appears they decided to add this Cap at the instrument cluster for the radio, etc, using a screw that was "existing", near to the oil gauge.
I'll check in later with the harness test results to see it's source.
Rich
P.S. Your '66 AIM U69 A5 page for reference.
Last edited by rich5962; 03-08-2024 at 08:18 AM.
#17
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It's tied directly to the IGN Switch Brown feed. So it's likely for the Wiper Motor/Washer Pump relay, and touches the radio and all other ACC circuits.
Here's the fuse panel wiring. This is 67 only. 63-66 similar for this circuit, except the hazard flasher function.
Bottom brown is the Orange(always on feed) for the hazard flasher output feed to the directional switch integrated hazard switch(67 hazard lamps were standard equipment) The hazard switch was part of the directional switch.
Center brown is from the IGN feed, to inputs of fuses for Htr & Radio. This also is tied to that "brown" radio capacitor wire in question.
Top brown is the output clip for the Htr blower fuse.
Yellow is from Radio fuse to Radio, fed from IGN brown(center brown wire).
Rich
Here's the fuse panel wiring. This is 67 only. 63-66 similar for this circuit, except the hazard flasher function.
Bottom brown is the Orange(always on feed) for the hazard flasher output feed to the directional switch integrated hazard switch(67 hazard lamps were standard equipment) The hazard switch was part of the directional switch.
Center brown is from the IGN feed, to inputs of fuses for Htr & Radio. This also is tied to that "brown" radio capacitor wire in question.
Top brown is the output clip for the Htr blower fuse.
Yellow is from Radio fuse to Radio, fed from IGN brown(center brown wire).
Rich
Last edited by rich5962; 03-08-2024 at 08:53 AM.