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Old 03-01-2024, 07:16 PM
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Default ANyone know this 65 L78 car?

came out of VA, now in CA, I have a deposit on it. all the date codes on engine, pad, casting, etc are all good to go... numbers matching.

https://www.galleryjunction.com/deta...96425/95675207

obviously wrong hood and wheels. story is came from same family since late 60's. Is a Factory SIlver Car. Looking to find the correct OEM hood and Wheels

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I would be cautious of it as a lot looks suspicious. No rear sway bar. Hood support on wrong side but may have been switched for the hood. Sort of looks like rear half shaft may have u-joints instead of BB caps but picture is too fuzzy to be sure. Lots of stuff in engine bay is incorrect. Parking brake cable looks broke. Some strange cable running underneath on passenger side. The frame does look nice and clean and general condition decent. Not sure that’s a correct paint color though. TI ignition is apparently gone with a ballast resister present. Too much money for a hot rod and needs to much to make it all correct and not be under water unless you can verify it’s an honest L78 with its original engine. Just my opinion.
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do you have a picture of the stamp pad? that car is a mess
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Yeah, so the pad looks good, 5117138 vin stamp, T0429IF.



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I cannot get the link to work!
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Agree, per shifter handle "Gene" didn't have any issues bolting on stuff lol... BUT, engine and trans both match VIN and you can see the silver paint under it. unsure what else has been changed, valve covers, air cleaner, coil, maybe distributor? still has the old points window on the cap so its old....a plate added under the carb but has the winters Intake and correct heads and exhaust manifolds.... i verified its been in the same family since late 60's

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just search gallery junction cars and look at the cars, you will see it....
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Kenehresman - Has the dealer explained why some things seem to be missing, as Dan pointed out? The VIN fits the generally accepted range, meaning it needs to be very near 13K on up but there are some other things worth checking
and I can't tell from the pics they posted. Things like location of the battery. And, is there anyway someone can get a pic of the White Label with Red Letters on the back/lower side of the instrument cluster? If should read 'LB'.
A fellow Forum Member and NCRS member (Gary Cowans), and I, have been compiling a list of any and all 65 L78s we come across and so far, we have about 360 out of the original 2157 made in 1965 and I don't see your VIN listed...yet.
Are you looking for tell-tale signs to look for, or is this a done-deal?
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I would be cautious of it as a lot looks suspicious. No rear sway bar. Hood support on wrong side but may have been switched for the hood. Sort of looks like rear half shaft may have u-joints instead of BB caps but picture is too fuzzy to be sure. Lots of stuff in engine bay is incorrect. Parking brake cable looks broke. Some strange cable running underneath on passenger side. The frame does look nice and clean and general condition decent. Not sure that’s a correct paint color though. TI ignition is apparently gone with a ballast resister present. Too much money for a hot rod and needs to much to make it all correct and not be under water unless you can verify it’s an honest L78 with its original engine. Just my opinion.
Agree with the caution. It may be fine (other than numerous details that are incorrect for anyone that cares about them - and those drive the price), including numerous incorrect underhood details and the 66-67 grill. The stamp pad shows broach marks in spite of someone incorrectly using a scarring tool to scuff it up.
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At least one good sign I can see so far is...the 90-degree bend in the fuel pipe, where it turns from the frame over to the fuel pump.
Smallblock cars had a much less severe bend, more like 45 degrees. And, it's such a royal pain to replace that fuel pipe, it's a decent bet that's the original.
But do let us know what side the battery is located on, passenger or drivers side.
Mike T - Prescott AZ
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its not a done deal, but yes, it needs to be a real car at 79K right.... I can ask about the white label with red letters on the back of cluster so long as they can put their phone up there and snap pics or videos and see it.... they likely won't pull the cluster. Where should the battery be? all the mods done appear to be to have been done in the 70-maybe 80's when nobody knew these would become what they are.... changing an air cleaner would have been an every saturday thing. FWIW it is a nice period 70's cleaner that should fetch some money at a swap meet lol... you can see where the exhause manifold ear was broken and someone has repaired it so sombody figured out at some point they needed to keep as many original parts as possible. Shifter was replaced obviously as well with "gene" on the handle lol... what else can you see or can I ask about
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the grill might indicate it was hit at some point in the front and why the hood has also been changed... but that would have been a hard hit
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BATTERY ON left SIDE

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Originally Posted by Vet65te
At least one good sign I can see so far is...the 90-degree bend in the fuel pipe, where it turns from the frame over to the fuel pump.
Smallblock cars had a much less severe bend, more like 45 degrees. And, it's such a royal pain to replace that fuel pipe, it's a decent bet that's the original.
But do let us know what side the battery is located on, passenger or drivers side.
Mike T - Prescott AZ

on Drivers Side... see pics
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What's the electrical additions below the left side of the cluster - extra lights? Music? Alarm? Obviously spliced into somewhere - that can be done neatly or it can be done by Bubba.
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
What's the electrical additions below the left side of the cluster - extra lights? Music? Alarm? Obviously spliced into somewhere - that can be done neatly or it can be done by Bubba.
bubba did it, bubba gene lol..... id assume the worse
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Ken - That's another good sign, as only the Bigblocks in 65 and factory 'A/C cars had their batteries located on the drivers side with access through a bolted rear panel to the drivers side inner wheel well.
In 65 and 66, the high horse Bigblocks had that LB sticker glued to the lower/backside of the instrument cluster. Here's a pic of that sticker from my 66 L72 (same cluster tach setup as the 65 L78) showing that sticker.
And, with some decent lighting and a cell-phone, it's possible to take a decent pic of that sticker.
By the way, all of the so-called tell-tale signs can be added or duplicated.
Since you haven't signed on the dotted line yet, ask for pics of the trans and diff stamped codes. If the dealer does not know where to find them...that's not a good sign.


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Originally Posted by Railroadman
What's the electrical additions below the left side of the cluster - extra lights? Music? Alarm? Obviously spliced into somewhere - that can be done neatly or it can be done by Bubba.
yes, the LB sticker is on the back of cluster. the trans also is stamped and has the correct casted numbers

unsure whewre stamping on rear diff would be?

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Originally Posted by kenehresman
yes, the LB sticker is on the back of cluster. the trans also is stamped and has the correct casted numbers

unsure whewre stamping on rear diff would be?
look between the strut rod bracket and spring mounting plate
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Originally Posted by kenehresman
yes, the LB sticker is on the back of cluster. the trans also is stamped and has the correct casted numbers

unsure whewre stamping on rear diff would be?

Check the bottom of diff where the cover bolts together....the codes for the axle ratio are there also

its by the bracket for the strut rods....will be hard to see


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