[C2] Tips on buying 1963 SWC
#21
I'm no expert on these cars, but concerning the sellers list of RPO's that the car came with, it's my understanding that no 1963 cars were delivered with the knock off wheels. That along with other incorrect items that others here have pointed out, reinforces the sentiments about not taking a sellers word for much of anything. As everyone here has said, have it inspected by a professional.
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appreciate it and all these reply’s have been a huge help!
#22
Le Mans Master
If you love the car and the price is right and want to remove PS and the AC, I wouldnt move on to another car over it.
Id be more concerned with the seller acting like that 340 horse is original while having a lower hp tach in place as well as claiming back up lamps and leather seats which didnt happen with black. Look very carefully at the trim tag, engine stamp and VIN plate. Are there pictures of these 3 items available?
Its possible the backup lamps were lost during restoration, but some restorations, particularly in 1986, could have done some damage to the car in actuality.
Id be more concerned with the seller acting like that 340 horse is original while having a lower hp tach in place as well as claiming back up lamps and leather seats which didnt happen with black. Look very carefully at the trim tag, engine stamp and VIN plate. Are there pictures of these 3 items available?
Its possible the backup lamps were lost during restoration, but some restorations, particularly in 1986, could have done some damage to the car in actuality.
Just thinking that if the intent is to go back to stock don’t start with an altered car. Additionally the low horse tach tells you the description of the car isn’t accurate.
If it were me and I really wanted a 63 coupe again I wouldn’t pass, presuming the car runs and drives well and the birdcage is solid. I don’t care to ever have another midyear so just offering advice as an observer.
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#23
Just thinking that if the intent is to go back to stock don’t start with an altered car. Additionally the low horse tach tells you the description of the car isn’t accurate.
If it were me and I really wanted a 63 coupe again I wouldn’t pass, presuming the car runs and drives well and the birdcage is solid. I don’t care to ever have another midyear so just offering advice as an observer.
If it were me and I really wanted a 63 coupe again I wouldn’t pass, presuming the car runs and drives well and the birdcage is solid. I don’t care to ever have another midyear so just offering advice as an observer.
Yup understood, the owner of the vehicle said he does drive it often hence the power steering and AC installation, which I don’t mind just curious if it is reversible. Does seem to be a “driver” 63’ I just want to make sure I am purchasing a genuine 340hp split window w/ matching numbers which is the primarily concern. With respect to the other items others have mentioned about the RPO’s
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#25
The 1963 frame body mounts are rigid and don't use the rubber cushions shown in your pictures. You can look at the ride stance and see the body sits slightly higher than it should.
Get some eyes on it, so you know exactly what you are thinking about buying.
Get some eyes on it, so you know exactly what you are thinking about buying.
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Another concern is the classic car market seems to be in decline, like we recently had a market peak, similar to housing. I see a lot of people asking top dollar, but not selling & you may do well to wait until the classic car market stops dropping, then jump in & buy as nice an example as you can. You might get a much nicer car 6 months or a year from now for the same money.
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#27
Another concern is the classic car market seems to be in decline, like we recently had a market peak, similar to housing. I see a lot of people asking top dollar, but not selling & you may do well to wait until the classic car market stops dropping, then jump in & buy as nice an example as you can. You might get a much nicer car 6 months or a year from now for the same money.
in your opinion what are you seeing the average 350hp split window is going for in Sebring Silver. I’ve seen from 165k-225k with NCRS docs. ?
Form what I’ve seen these cars are only going up, but I may be Tunnel visioned.
thanks for the info and help!
Last edited by Veltis; 01-17-2024 at 07:26 PM.
#28
Burning Brakes
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#30
Drifting
Correct and unmolested wheels and caps for a '63 are probably an additional $1500 or so over the price of the repro knock-offs. Lots and lots of 63 only parts on these cars which are big $$$ to replace.
Remember, there's a "Corvette tax", but there's also a "63 tax" on top of that when it comes to 63 Corvettes.
Remember, there's a "Corvette tax", but there's also a "63 tax" on top of that when it comes to 63 Corvettes.
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#31
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I have to question the sellers misrepresentation of the car.
The description does not match the car.
That leaves me with MY conclusion that either he is not very knowledgeable about the car (and 63's in general ) .
Or he is looking for someone to buy it on emotion and not knowledge.
The description does not match the car.
That leaves me with MY conclusion that either he is not very knowledgeable about the car (and 63's in general ) .
Or he is looking for someone to buy it on emotion and not knowledge.
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#32
I have to question the sellers misrepresentation of the car.
The description does not match the car.
That leaves me with MY conclusion that either he is not very knowledgeable about the car (and 63's in general ) .
Or he is looking for someone to buy it on emotion and not knowledge.
The description does not match the car.
That leaves me with MY conclusion that either he is not very knowledgeable about the car (and 63's in general ) .
Or he is looking for someone to buy it on emotion and not knowledge.
#33
If you love the car and the price is right and want to remove PS and the AC, I wouldnt move on to another car over it.
Id be more concerned with the seller acting like that 340 horse is original while having a lower hp tach in place as well as claiming back up lamps and leather seats which didnt happen with black. Look very carefully at the trim tag, engine stamp and VIN plate. Are there pictures of these 3 items available?
Its possible the backup lamps were lost during restoration, but some restorations, particularly in 1986, could have done some damage to the car in actuality.
Id be more concerned with the seller acting like that 340 horse is original while having a lower hp tach in place as well as claiming back up lamps and leather seats which didnt happen with black. Look very carefully at the trim tag, engine stamp and VIN plate. Are there pictures of these 3 items available?
Its possible the backup lamps were lost during restoration, but some restorations, particularly in 1986, could have done some damage to the car in actuality.
referencing back to this reply. Owner sent me more picture that may or may not help. Still getting experts to look into it. Still waiting on documentation as well.
#34
Melting Slicks
That's why we are advising a competent inspector or that you move on to another car.
Additional context. SHP cars (340 /360 HP engines ) have a idler pulley in the same location as a power steering pump.
Also they have the larger oil pan . That pan prevents the installation of the power steering ram or the steering stabilizer.
Additional context. SHP cars (340 /360 HP engines ) have a idler pulley in the same location as a power steering pump.
Also they have the larger oil pan . That pan prevents the installation of the power steering ram or the steering stabilizer.
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#35
That's why we are advising a competent inspector or that you move on to another car.
Additional context. SHP cars (340 /360 HP engines ) have a idler pulley in the same location as a power steering pump.
Also they have the larger oil pan . That pan prevents the installation of the power steering ram or the steering stabilizer.
Additional context. SHP cars (340 /360 HP engines ) have a idler pulley in the same location as a power steering pump.
Also they have the larger oil pan . That pan prevents the installation of the power steering ram or the steering stabilizer.
thanks for help!
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Another concern is the classic car market seems to be in decline, like we recently had a market peak, similar to housing. I see a lot of people asking top dollar, but not selling & you may do well to wait until the classic car market stops dropping, then jump in & buy as nice an example as you can. You might get a much nicer car 6 months or a year from now for the same money.
#39
Found out the vette’s original VIN Tag is gone. So I’m going to be staying away from this one. I’ll keep everyone updated if I find another potential purchase down the road.
thanks for everyone helping out.
thanks for everyone helping out.
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