C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

oil seepage lesson learned

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-04-2023, 01:11 PM
  #1  
rosros
Racer
Thread Starter
 
rosros's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2011
Location: chicagoland il
Posts: 261
Received 74 Likes on 29 Posts

Default oil seepage lesson learned

Recently noticed oil covering underside of car, around intake manifold edges and backside and front side of engine block. No drips, just wet. No smoking from the exhaust. Oil pressure guage seemed ok but in retro may have been reading a bit high. I checked the dipstick and it was over the full mark. The car has been converted to spin on oil filter so the oil capacity is reduced to 5 qts. The mechanic must have just followed mfg specs and added in the 6 qts and out the door she went (as this car was a recent purchase the oil change was done right before my purchase). Went to Harbor Freight and got the Pittsburg transfer pump (did not want to deal with doing an oil change), ran the hose down the dipstick and pumped out a qt. Will let the oil settle as the pump probably agitated the oil. Now oil readings at the full mark so was over filled by 1 qt. Hopefully the valve cover seal will reseat with less oil pressure up top and not leak. A big slap to my forehead.

Last edited by rosros; 09-04-2023 at 01:40 PM. Reason: added context
Old 09-04-2023, 01:35 PM
  #2  
Helix9595
Pro
 
Helix9595's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2021
Location: Arvada Colorado
Posts: 562
Received 276 Likes on 133 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rosros
Recently noticed oil covering underside of car, around intake manifold edges and backside and front side of engine block. No drips, just wet. No smoking from the exhaust. Oil pressure guage seemed ok but in retro may have been reading a bit high. I checked the dipstick and it was over the full mark. The car has been converted to spin on oil filter so the oil capacity is reduced to 5 qts. The mechanic must have just followed mfg specs and added in the 6 qts and out the door she went (as this car was a recent purchase the oil change was done right before my purchase). Went to Harbor Freight and got the Pittsburg transfer pump (did not want to deal with doing an oil change), ran the hose down the dipstick and pumped out a qtr. Will let the oil settle as the pump probably agitated the oil. Now oil readings at the full mark so was over filled by 1 qt. Hopefully the valve cover seal will reseat with less oil pressure up top and not leak. A big slap to my forehead.
Thanks for posting about this. I forgot that the spin on filters use less oil. My car started seeping oil but I could not figure out where it was coming from. Last week I suspected that I might be overfull so removed some. Your situation verifies that I was overfull.

Old 09-04-2023, 01:41 PM
  #3  
Nowhere Man
Team Owner
 
Nowhere Man's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2003
Location: Sitting in his Nowhere land Hanover Pa
Posts: 49,082
Received 6,982 Likes on 4,802 Posts
2015 C2 of Year Finalist

Default

The canisters hold one quart while most spin on filters hold a half a quart. But there was some spin on filters for trucks and such that held one quart too. From memory the one for a 350 was PF1218. While the PF 35 was a half a quart. But this was for 305/307 and 350 blocks. I have no idea about spin on conversions
Old 09-04-2023, 01:50 PM
  #4  
jforb
Pro
 
jforb's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2023
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 658
Received 526 Likes on 206 Posts
Default

I'm curious about how being a bit over full will affect the engine....can you explain?
Old 09-04-2023, 01:54 PM
  #5  
Helix9595
Pro
 
Helix9595's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2021
Location: Arvada Colorado
Posts: 562
Received 276 Likes on 133 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jforb
I'm curious about how being a bit over full will affect the engine....can you explain?
A bit over full may just cause a leak, A lot over full could hit the crankshaft and cause all kinds of issues. Noises, power loss oil leaks etc.
Old 09-04-2023, 02:30 PM
  #6  
dplotkin
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
 
dplotkin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,542
Received 2,143 Likes on 1,033 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C2 of Year Finalist (stock)
2015 C2 of the Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by jforb
I'm curious about how being a bit over full will affect the engine....can you explain?
Overfilling an engine or transmission risks that the level rises above rotating parts causing foam which is aeration and as we know pumps for liquids will not pump air. In the engine such risks are likely far smaller than the wives tales and causes mostly leaks. In an automatic transmission however foaming ATF in hydraulic circuits can cause havoc, causing low line pressures and partially engaged clutches and bands. Overfilling is self inflicted failure, the worst kind.

Dan
Old 09-04-2023, 02:38 PM
  #7  
jforb
Pro
 
jforb's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2023
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 658
Received 526 Likes on 206 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Helix9595
A bit over full may just cause a leak,
How? I don't understand.

Old 09-04-2023, 02:47 PM
  #8  
dplotkin
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
 
dplotkin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,542
Received 2,143 Likes on 1,033 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C2 of Year Finalist (stock)
2015 C2 of the Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by jforb
How? I don't understand.
When oil is at a level equal to or above a gasketed area not intended to see oil under pressure, top of oil pan gasket, front cover, rear seal, anywhere oil isn't supposed to be in quantity it will seep or leak. Think about an engine oiling system that routes pumped oil to moving parts that need it. If the crank is churning through the oil, whipping it into a froth it will throw it everywhere inside and can give the oil pump a problem too.

Dan
The following users liked this post:
Helix9595 (09-04-2023)

Get notified of new replies

To oil seepage lesson learned




Quick Reply: oil seepage lesson learned



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:07 AM.