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Of the people that respond, you will get various answers….but I will tell you that to make a determination, the clarity of the photo is nowhere near good enough to make a determination…..
I would call it a restamp, for three reasons.. The first eye in the date is a 1. 1 was not used in the date at Tonawanda or Flint... Second, different fonts were commonly used in the vin derivative, but not in this case.. I would expect there to be different 8s used in the vin.. Finally, the broach marks are too coarse and distinct.. If the stamp were OEM, the broach marks would be all but invisible after all this time, even under magnification.. All that said, it's a good looking pad generally.
Good points!!!!
Were Employees asigned to this work required to use the identical official stamps that they had at thier disposal? I'm just wanting to understand how critical thier stamp selection was back in the 60's. I've worked with stamping ID tags for lifting equipment that was not as critical.
If critical, then my perspective is much different about the OP's Question....
It's well documented and not uncommon to find "1"s used in place of "I"s and "I"s used for "1's. Also, "6"s and "9"s often got turned upside down to be used as "9"s and "6"s, and "O"s and "0"s were often interchanged.
If I were to question anything about the Tonawanda date stamp it would be the position of the "IP", not the "1" and "I"s in the stamping. It sounds strange to say, but the "IP" looks a little to well aligned with the rest of the engine stamp. The stamps on 66 427's often have the suffix code misaligned with the rest of the stamp, appearing to have been stamped after the date, and not in the gang holder with the rest of the Tonawanda stamp. I would not dismiss this pad because of that, it's just something I've noticed about early 427 pads. The pad in the photo below is a good example of what I was saying about the alignment of 427 suffix codes.
As far as the broach marks, they do look a little course or pronounced in the picture to me, but unless there was something really obvious about their appearance when seeing them in person, I think the best you can say from that picture is that the broach marks do exist.
Beautiful car and for the right price it's a good buy. If you want a car with unquestionable provenance, I don't think BAT is the place to look. Totally correct, "numbers matching" cars generally come from friends or friends of friends or certain dealers at certain times, but the asking price reflects the history. If that car was unquestionable "Numbers Matching" the price would be north of $100K right now and sell for much more at the end of the sale.
What concerns me a little, is why it has been on BAT twice before and didn't stay with those buyers.
What concerns me a little, is why it has been on BAT twice before and didn't stay with those buyers.
I think you are looking at a different car.
The car which is the subject of this thread is currently at $150,000.
Very strange -- there only appear to be two bids -- the first one at 105k and the second at 150k.
I think you are looking at a different car.
The car which is the subject of this thread is currently at $150,000.
Very strange -- there only appear to be two bids -- the first one at 105k and the second at 150k.
Sellers often list at a high reserve and then get friends to bid up to just below the reserve. Even if the car doesn't sell, it now has a history they can advertise that it got up to $xxxxx on BAT. Not saying that's what's going on here but wouldn't be surprised. It happens all the time.
06-15-2023, 08:06 AM
Is This a Re-stamp?
