C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

[C2] Shake at 55 mph?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-21-2022, 07:05 PM
  #1  
Chief Dan
Instructor

Thread Starter
 
Chief Dan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2021
Posts: 141
Received 59 Likes on 25 Posts
Default Shake at 55 mph?

My '64 convertible has a distinct shake at 55 mph. Starts around 52 and disappears around 58. I have replaced 2 rims, 6 different tires and two shops have checked tire balance. Today I rotated my extra tire ( won't fit in the spare carrier) all around the car so I drove it 5 times with a tire replaced each time with the one I took off on the prior trip. No change at all no matter what tires are on the car. What can cause a shake at 55 besides an out of balance tire?
Old 06-21-2022, 07:16 PM
  #2  
TAlvarez
Pro
 
TAlvarez's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2021
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 699
Received 405 Likes on 212 Posts
Default

Various worn front suspension components like tie rod ends, ball joints, wheel bearings, etc.

Ted
The following 3 users liked this post by TAlvarez:
1965glengreen (06-28-2022), Pop Chevy (06-21-2022), WaikikiWayne (06-26-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 07:20 PM
  #3  
Chief Dan
Instructor

Thread Starter
 
Chief Dan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2021
Posts: 141
Received 59 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Ted, Car was restored and front end components all have less than 3000 miles on them. Springs, shocks, tie rod ends , wheel bearings etc. all are new. Maybe one is bad but still new.
Old 06-21-2022, 07:31 PM
  #4  
TAlvarez
Pro
 
TAlvarez's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2021
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Posts: 699
Received 405 Likes on 212 Posts
Default

Well, if everything has been rebuilt, all should be good in that realm. I would still check the wheel bearings for excessive play just to make sure something didn't come loose. I say that, because I saw this happen many years ago on a car and a pretty bad front end shake was the result.
Just food for thought.
Ted
Old 06-21-2022, 07:57 PM
  #5  
L78
Burning Brakes
 
L78's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Location: Folsom Ca
Posts: 1,146
Received 435 Likes on 243 Posts

Default

Is you shake under acceleration? Deceleration? Steady cruise? Clutch in? 55 mph in 3rd gear? Or only 4th gear?
Old 06-21-2022, 08:06 PM
  #6  
Vega$Vette
Race Director
 
Vega$Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 10,053
Received 2,117 Likes on 990 Posts

Default

U-joints?
The following 2 users liked this post by Vega$Vette:
Oldpiker (06-27-2022), rsinor (06-21-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 08:16 PM
  #7  
jim lockwood
Race Director
 
jim lockwood's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: northern california
Posts: 13,621
Received 6,543 Likes on 3,008 Posts
C2 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019

Default

Chief, you haven't specified where you feel the shake..... steering wheel, seat of your pants, just over the entire car??
The following 2 users liked this post by jim lockwood:
1965glengreen (06-28-2022), Mossy66 (06-22-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 09:19 PM
  #8  
SnuffSmith
Instructor
 
SnuffSmith's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2019
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 122
Received 69 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Were u-joints inspected and reinstalled not in the same position? (Drive shaft rotated)
The following users liked this post:
Birdman63 (07-01-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 09:22 PM
  #9  
lawdawg
Instructor
 
lawdawg's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: alabama
Posts: 217
Received 54 Likes on 32 Posts

Default

Drive faster than 58!
The following users liked this post:
WaikikiWayne (06-26-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 10:26 PM
  #10  
Chief Dan
Instructor

Thread Starter
 
Chief Dan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2021
Posts: 141
Received 59 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

The shake is all over and happens when steady cruising in 4th gear, I have not tried to run at 55 in 3rd. Driveshaft looks new but I have no idea how it or the u-joints were installed or in what position.
Old 06-21-2022, 11:00 PM
  #11  
66jack
Team Owner
 
66jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 30,373
Received 830 Likes on 574 Posts

Default

Have the drive shaft balanced.
The following 2 users liked this post by 66jack:
Oldpiker (06-27-2022), swissie (07-28-2022)
Old 06-21-2022, 11:16 PM
  #12  
John BX NY
Drifting
 
John BX NY's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2006
Location: Bronx New York
Posts: 1,823
Received 341 Likes on 231 Posts

Default

Have the tires been balanced with a road force balancing machine ?

Old 06-22-2022, 07:04 AM
  #13  
6T7L71CPE
Melting Slicks

 
6T7L71CPE's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,646
Received 383 Likes on 251 Posts

Default

What brand are they? COKER tires have a bad rep for being out of round. I had a set of GOODYEAR SR-A's on my truck from SAMS CLUB that could not be balanced, they do not use the road force machine.
Old 06-22-2022, 08:07 AM
  #14  
DansYellow66
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
DansYellow66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2003
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 15,768
Received 2,627 Likes on 1,958 Posts

Default

Are the shocks new? I remember as a kid my 64 Plymouth had a bad vibration at highway speed (probably tire tramp) that went away when I put new shocks on it. It usually is also a symptom of less than good tire balance but the shocks were the main contributor in my case.
Old 06-22-2022, 07:02 PM
  #15  
Mossy66
Drifting
 
Mossy66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Villa Illinois
Posts: 1,542
Received 92 Likes on 73 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14

Default

Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Chief, you haven't specified where you feel the shake..... steering wheel, seat of your pants, just over the entire car??
Yeah, a lot of answers without any troubleshooting...
Chief, How about getting up to where it shakes, and putting it in neutral and let it coast. Does it still shake or does the shake go away?
Gerry
The following 2 users liked this post by Mossy66:
sixtysixtom (07-01-2022), SWCDuke (06-22-2022)
Old 06-22-2022, 10:00 PM
  #16  
Mossy66
Drifting
 
Mossy66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Villa Illinois
Posts: 1,542
Received 92 Likes on 73 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14

Default

Originally Posted by DansYellow66
Are the shocks new? I remember as a kid my 64 Plymouth had a bad vibration at highway speed (probably tire tramp) that went away when I put new shocks on it. It usually is also a symptom of less than good tire balance but the shocks were the main contributor in my case.
There must be more to this. I can't understand how worn shocks could be the main contributor to a vibration caused by tire imbalance.
The OP states that the vibration starts at 52 mph and goes away at 58 mph. Doesn't vibration from tire imbalance get worse as speed increases?
Gerry
Old 06-22-2022, 10:10 PM
  #17  
jim lockwood
Race Director
 
jim lockwood's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: northern california
Posts: 13,621
Received 6,543 Likes on 3,008 Posts
C2 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019

Default

Originally Posted by Mossy66
There must be more to this. I can't understand how worn shocks could be the main contributor to a vibration caused by tire imbalance.
The OP states that the vibration starts at 52 mph and goes away at 58 mph. Doesn't vibration from tire imbalance get worse as speed increases?
Gerry
Not necessarily.

Once the rotational rate of the imbalance mass exceeds the resonant frequency of the suspension, the shaking diminishes dramatically.
The following 5 users liked this post by jim lockwood:
DansYellow66 (06-23-2022), kellsdad (06-23-2022), marshal135 (06-23-2022), Mossy66 (06-22-2022), Vega$Vette (06-22-2022)

Get notified of new replies

To Shake at 55 mph?

Old 06-22-2022, 10:14 PM
  #18  
Mossy66
Drifting
 
Mossy66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Villa Illinois
Posts: 1,542
Received 92 Likes on 73 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14

Default

Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Not necessarily.

Once the rotational rate of the imbalance mass exceeds the resonant frequency of the suspension, the shaking diminishes dramatically.
Really? See! There was more to this! Thanks! I learned something today!

Gerry
Old 06-23-2022, 06:54 AM
  #19  
Chief Dan
Instructor

Thread Starter
 
Chief Dan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2021
Posts: 141
Received 59 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mossy66
Yeah, a lot of answers without any troubleshooting...
Chief, How about getting up to where it shakes, and putting it in neutral and let it coast. Does it still shake or does the shake go away?
Gerry
I have never tried that but I will today.
Old 06-23-2022, 07:33 AM
  #20  
Chief Dan
Instructor

Thread Starter
 
Chief Dan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2021
Posts: 141
Received 59 Likes on 25 Posts
Default My plan:

Ok, To answer some questions, the shocks are almost new, tires are cooper 205x75R15, I have about ruled out tire balance as I have had 2 shops check the balance and have 2 new rims and have rotated 6 tires and wheels thru the car with no difference. I did get a PM from a gentleman who chased the exact same vibration for 10 years and finally had the driveshaft balanced. I am going to have the car aligned and then have the driveshaft balanced. Thanks for all the help guys.


Quick Reply: [C2] Shake at 55 mph?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:55 AM.