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Well rounded response to my last post. Thought I will try another. Our 67 coupe purchased in 1972 was a "Plain Jane", basic 300 HP with no options except for a four-speed transmission. Over the years I bought, sold, and parted out many midyear cars. Whenever I had the chance to grab an option for my car, I did. Today she sports many OEM items including factory A/C. (That was a lot of work!). There is no Fraudulent intent here as the car is going to one of my sons. So, how would you consider this car's options? Real or Bastardized car? I had the car NCRS Local Meet judged and they didn't pick up added options as being after assembly installed. (Pat on my back.). Al W.
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Al - it's definitely a personal decision whether to leave them as 'GM intended' or to make them the way the owner wants them. In my case, when I bought my 65 Coupe...in 1985, it had big flairs, air shocks (little known factory option ;-O), 300 horse 327, 4 speed and the radio. It had been Nassau Blue over Blue but someone had already changed out the interior to black...which I liked so I left it Black.
As for options, since I was not exactly able to buy them when they were new (being 10/11 years old at the time), I built the car to match what I would have ordered if I had that opportunity so...
It now has Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Teak Steering Wheel, 4-way flashers (yes, a 66 option but I don't care), Knock-Offs, and my favorite...Side Pipes.
Oh, and it's now Black on Black. I like it this way and it'll never get judged.
So, yes my 65 Coupe is Real and I'd never call it bastardized...while others might ;-).
Mike T - Prescott AZ
As for options, since I was not exactly able to buy them when they were new (being 10/11 years old at the time), I built the car to match what I would have ordered if I had that opportunity so...
It now has Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Teak Steering Wheel, 4-way flashers (yes, a 66 option but I don't care), Knock-Offs, and my favorite...Side Pipes.
Oh, and it's now Black on Black. I like it this way and it'll never get judged.
So, yes my 65 Coupe is Real and I'd never call it bastardized...while others might ;-).
Mike T - Prescott AZ
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In my view the car is real. It's not "all original" or "as built," though. Nothing wrong with that.
Just like with boob jobs--they are real, just not OEM. Nothing wrong with that.
Just like with boob jobs--they are real, just not OEM. Nothing wrong with that.
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Well rounded response to my last post. Thought I will try another. Our 67 coupe purchased in 1972 was a "Plain Jane", basic 300 HP with no options except for a four-speed transmission. Over the years I bought, sold, and parted out many midyear cars. Whenever I had the chance to grab an option for my car, I did. Today she sports many OEM items including factory A/C. (That was a lot of work!). There is no Fraudulent intent here as the car is going to one of my sons. So, how would you consider this car's options? Real or Bastardized car? I had the car NCRS Local Meet judged and they didn't pick up added options as being after assembly installed. (Pat on my back.). Al W.
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I would consider both of your cars as personalized, not bastardized. They are still low HP coupes more of less produced as by the factory. The changes made by you do not add much in the way of market value and would not impact a potential buyer much (financially) one way or another. The problem with the hobby is when cars are built as big dollar rare collectable cars that are intentionally meant to deceive and fraudulently obtain more for the car than the market would otherwise demand.
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Unless it’s all about the #s improvements done correctly definitely add to the value of the car.
PS added using all restored GM parts. PB. Side Pipes. KO wheels. Leather Seats. Yes. All good except to the, what I’m seeing far fewer now days, the all about the #s people.
PS added using all restored GM parts. PB. Side Pipes. KO wheels. Leather Seats. Yes. All good except to the, what I’m seeing far fewer now days, the all about the #s people.
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It is a real factory option added car, plain and simple.
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Funny, You have been a corvette owner ,enthusiast for many years .I'm sure you have run across many corvette owners in all that time. What I have experienced with most of the car owners is this one "it's one of ......... made" . Everyone has a rare corvette, and it amazes me they all seem to still retain their born with engine etc. So the hot rodded customized bad *** ones are now a vestal virgin. Once the cherry is broke it's no longer a virgin
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Yes we do , But I have the only one that has anchor bolt markings where others have tr bolts documented from the grand daughter of the son who's farther worked on the St.louis line Christmas eve 1966 . which also had the stinger hood installed on my 300 hp 3spd from the same day. . I was told by the 4th owner the factory made an exception because the coupe was more expensive than a convertible. .
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There are VERY few cars that are NOT 1 of a few. If you don’t believe me just troll a Ford site that people taut their MartinReport cars. Ford had great records of how their cars were optioned and colored. For a fee you can get a detailed report as to just how many were built exactly like yours. In most cases the numbers are small because there were so many individual options you could buy unlike today where everything is a package of options.
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Yes we do , But I have the only one that has anchor bolt markings where others have tr bolts documented from the grand daughter of the son who's farther worked on the St.louis line Christmas eve 1966 . which also had the stinger hood installed on my 300 hp 3spd from the same day. . I was told by the 4th owner the factory made an exception because the coupe was more expensive than a convertible. .
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If there's no deception I don't see the harm in adding options that suite your desire. It's your car so your choice especially if you're looking to enhance the driving experience or maybe create the Corvette you always wanted. Obviously someone looking for an NCRS correct "investment quality" example a modified car leaves them out. IMCO I think there are enough "seekers" out there that a nicely built factory added optioned Corvette at market price would not be difficult to sell.
Remember the very positive replies to this thread?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ute-worth.html
This has to be one of the best examples of adding the correct factory options to create a one of one or at least a very few.
Remember the very positive replies to this thread?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ute-worth.html
This has to be one of the best examples of adding the correct factory options to create a one of one or at least a very few.
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I'm in the middle of modifying my 67 coupe. It came with all power options and AC which I wanted, but it was also a base 300/Powerglide car with a few OE parts missing. If it had had a hi horse engine and 4 speed I probably would have left it as is.
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Don't pay a premium price for a car being "original unrestored" etc unless the owner has all the documentation to prove it. Yes, I know that can be faked too. So, you have to analyze the documentation to be sure it's not faked.
Without the documentation, as this post and others have illustrated, you are getting what you see and nothing more. All the physical aspects of the car can be changed if somebody is motivated enough.
Without the documentation, as this post and others have illustrated, you are getting what you see and nothing more. All the physical aspects of the car can be changed if somebody is motivated enough.
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I tell everyone that PS, PB, A/C, leather seats, teak wheel, bolt-ons, headrests, and 3-point seat/shoulder belts were added to my ‘67.
So far, no one has referred to my car as a piece of c__p.
Steve
So far, no one has referred to my car as a piece of c__p.
Steve
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