[C2] Oil cartridge vs oil filter
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At the shop, the Chrysler spin-on for the 4.7 motors has a very shallow depth for the O-ring to sit in. When installing under the splash pan, that filter can be bumped off the can fairly easily, leading to another Valdez moment.
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When ever I see the spin on conversion, there is usually a laundry list of improvements to go along with it.
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A lot of cars are going back--and have for some time--to the canister-type filter. My BMW and Toyota Highlander use them. I think the old GM canister presented more problems than it solved that someone alluded to. I can't imagine how many of those square o-rings were jammed into the filter housing and leaked, potentially destroying a lot of engines.
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I removed the oil filter adapter that was on my stock '61 283 for NCRS. Now I want to go back to using a regular spin-on filter.
In the collective wisdom here what's the best product to buy?
In the collective wisdom here what's the best product to buy?
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leaston78 (04-28-2022)
#26
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I agree they both do the same **** however I hate changing oil with canister filters.
My 66 hasnt had the canister on it for at least 25 years.
On my Toyota Tundra, for ease of filter access I cut a hole in the skid plate and then converted it to a spin on. Clean, quick and easy
My 66 hasnt had the canister on it for at least 25 years.
On my Toyota Tundra, for ease of filter access I cut a hole in the skid plate and then converted it to a spin on. Clean, quick and easy
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65air_coupe (04-29-2022)
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So I went to do my Spring oil change on my ‘61 and as I was warming the engine I noticed a significant oil leak under the car. After investigating, I found that the oil was coming from around the filter. I changed the oil before winter and have not run the car since, so I don’t have a concern about damage but, I’m puzzled about the leak.
A previous owner had added a spin-on adapter and the oil filter I put on last year was snug but not super tight. I went ahead with the oil change and used the hex head stamped into the K&N filter to tighten the new filter a bit more than normal. I started the car and checked for leaks and all was good.
So my question is about whether anyone has experience with a spin-on adapter (or its gasket) failing. Never had this problem before and I will be checking closely for leaks this season. Just wondering whether I should replace the spin-on adapter. It’s been on the car for at least 45 years.
A previous owner had added a spin-on adapter and the oil filter I put on last year was snug but not super tight. I went ahead with the oil change and used the hex head stamped into the K&N filter to tighten the new filter a bit more than normal. I started the car and checked for leaks and all was good.
So my question is about whether anyone has experience with a spin-on adapter (or its gasket) failing. Never had this problem before and I will be checking closely for leaks this season. Just wondering whether I should replace the spin-on adapter. It’s been on the car for at least 45 years.
#28
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Depending on which element you use, I notice that some don't fit quite as good over the sealing surface. That's why I am still running the cartridge because I don't trust the width of the adapter sealing surface to be a good match to the element's seal.
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Thanks. If by “element” you are referring to the spin-on filter, I have used several brands with no problem before. I have been using K&N for the last few years with no leaks until now. I always wipe off the gasket seat and pre-lubricate the gasket on the filter. I inspected the filter I removed and that gasket looked fine.
I’m inclined to think that I am the problem and that I just didn’t tighten the filter enough. Never had that happen before. Just keeping an eye on it for now. If I see new leaks, I will take a harder look at the adapter.
I’m inclined to think that I am the problem and that I just didn’t tighten the filter enough. Never had that happen before. Just keeping an eye on it for now. If I see new leaks, I will take a harder look at the adapter.
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Thanks. If by “element” you are referring to the spin-on filter, I have used several brands with no problem before. I have been using K&N for the last few years with no leaks until now. I always wipe off the gasket seat and pre-lubricate the gasket on the filter. I inspected the filter I removed and that gasket looked fine.
I’m inclined to think that I am the problem and that I just didn’t tighten the filter enough. Never had that happen before. Just keeping an eye on it for now. If I see new leaks, I will take a harder look at the adapter.
I’m inclined to think that I am the problem and that I just didn’t tighten the filter enough. Never had that happen before. Just keeping an eye on it for now. If I see new leaks, I will take a harder look at the adapter.
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No need to measure. You can see the contact surface as you tighten the filter against it. I also lapped the contact surface of the adapter on a large piece of glass and sandpaper to make sure it was flat. It wasn't even close when I started.
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Thanks. If I decide to replace it, I will do the lapping on the new adapter. On my ‘61, the filter is tucked up pretty tight between the exhaust and the oil pan but I can probably see it with a mirror. Thanks for the tip. I was thinking measurements would help me select the best fit when I buy a new filter.
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Both of my cars have canister filters and I am probably going to switch to the above filter simply for the added capacity.
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