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Old 09-03-2021, 05:39 PM
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Driving happily down the road the car will die for a split second or 5 and then restart. I've checked the connections at the blast resistor, the coil and changed the coil. Can it be the key connection? Any other ideas are welcome.

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Could also be the "red wire" problem, a dirty or corroded connection on the LH firewall electrical plug to the back of the fuse panel. 12 gsuge red wire. Its a too common problem and it is often intermittent
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Try this. Disconnect your battery! Go to the main bulkhead electrical connector under the master cylinder. Carefully remove it via the tabs. Don't break them, you'll regret that. The connections, especially the one red wire may have corrosion on it or loose ect. Use some kind of abrasive to clean the connections. Reconnect the unit. Dennis
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Red wire
This is what you get when you pay someone by the post and not by the word.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
This is what you get when you pay someone by the post and not by the word.
your getting paid?

To expand on my short and sweet post remove the connector at the bulk head and clean and look for damages terminals. Repair as needed. This might not be your problem but a good place to start
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
your getting paid?

To expand on my short and sweet post remove the connector at the bulk head and clean and look for damages terminals. Repair as needed. This might not be your problem but a good place to start
Excellent improvement. Now, what is a bulkhead connector and where is it?
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
Excellent improvement. Now, what is a bulkhead connector and where is it?
Seriously??? . . . please re-read response # 4 above!
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So this morning I removed and cleaned the bulk head connector. I got the posts shiny and bright and took the car for a run. All was fine till I tried a hard left turn and I got the stall and quick restart, traveled a little further and got the stall again and I began to coast. I had my foot on the clutch as I started to turn the car for a restart, and got the grind as it restarted on it's own. As a side note I can remove the key from the switch while driving. There is nothing heavy on the ring - one other key and a square leather fob. After the restart I removed the key and drove home uneventfully even trying a few hard right and hard left turns. Just for curiosity I checked the carb floats when I got home and they were spot on. Could it be a worn key switch?

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Check fuel pressure.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Check fuel pressure.

will do Pump is about about 4 years old
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Had this happen there is a bi medal connection in ignition switch if going up a grade it cuts connection to distributor .
Had this happen at the same traffic lite in my neighborhood 67 corvette After third time I figured it out .Sounds crazy but after taking switch out of dash it started right up
Tilt switch it would kill the engine Took switch apart that was the problem .
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I think that it should be driven a little more with only the key it self in the ignition before anything further.
Gently manipulate the key and see if anything happens. I know what you all are thinking, keep your mind
on the straight and narrow.
Mike

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Decided to take the car for a ride. After pulling out from the garage I removed the key from the ignition. I took the same ride as earlier in the day and then a little longer with no incident. I'll continue to do this for the coming week and see what happens. I'll report back next Saturday or sooner if the problem arises. Thank you all the help and suggestion and the speedy replies. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed for the coming week

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Originally Posted by Tom Austin
Seriously??? . . . please re-read response # 4 above!
I think you missed the whole point of my conversation with nowhere man. The response was "red wire."
Read back through my dozens of posts with pictures and diagrams about cleaning the contacts on the red wire and bypassing it and removing the bulkhead connectors, and see how seriously you think the question was asked.
Believe it or not there are many new Corvette owners on here that don't know what a bulkhead connector is. I'm trying to get nowhere man to use more words to spread his knowledge.

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Originally Posted by ah53
Decided to take the car for a ride. After pulling out from the garage I removed the key from the ignition. I took the same ride as earlier in the day and then a little longer with no incident. I'll continue to do this for the coming week and see what happens. I'll report back next Saturday or sooner if the problem arises. Thank you all the help and suggestion and the speedy replies. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed for the coming week

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Keep in mind that the ignition switch assembly is two parts. One is the key lock assembly which won't won't cause your problem. The second is the ignition switch that mounts on behind the lock assembly. That's where all the electrical connections are. A worn key or tumblers won't make the ignition contacts cut out.
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Definitely sounds electrical in nature. Red wire/main connector under the master cylinder being most likely, but there are many other places with the potential for an intermittent short. You just have to work at eliminating them one by one.

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If you are talking about me in your post your not the only control wiring guy in town
I have talked to you and Nowhere man man since 2008 .
This was a real time experience with the ignition switch and have commented on many issues
Have wired many C2s through the years .
That rubbed me the wrong way.
No wonder Frankie is happy he left the forum.
By the way he walked away with 140.000 and hasn"t looked back .
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Originally Posted by rtruman
If you are talking about me in your post your not the only control wiring guy in town
I have talked to you and Nowhere man man since 2008 .
This was a real time experience with the ignition switch and have commented on many issues
Have wired many C2s through the years .
That rubbed me the wrong way.
No wonder Frankie is happy he left the forum.
By the way he walked away with 140.000 and hasn"t looked back .
Why in the hell would you think I was talking about you when I said "nowhere man" in the post? Why don't you read back over the post and see if you can't catch a little of what I'm trying to tell him? Maybe Frankie left from all the people getting "rubbed the wrong way" when nobody was even talking to them. And by the way I wasn't talking about being a wiring guy I was talking about using your words to help people out instead of just a hit and go two word answer. Nowhere man has accumulated a lot of knowledge, but he only shares it a word or two at a time.
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I try and be short and to the point. Sometimes I try to lead the horse to the water. But most never want to drink it. If you know what I mean. I was hoping by now everyone would know what I meant by “red wire”. But I guess I was wrong. It should be very common by now. As there prolly is thousands of post about it. I my self never had it. But I have helped others who have. But I haven’t been around these cars as long as most on here. My knowledge only covers what I have done. And in the grand scheme of things I pale in comparison to most.


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