[C2] 1966 A/C car - Increase blower fan power?
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1966 A/C car - Increase blower fan power?
Perhaps this is an odd question, but wanted to give it a shot. I have a 1966 with factory A/C. I wish the blower fan was more robust. I have no reason to think it is any less robust than it was when new....but I would like it to blow like a modern car. Has anyone tinkered with this? Can one rebuild the motor in someway allowing for greater RPM's? Thank you in advance for any feedback....
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I recall a thread here (a few months ago?) where the poster tried to do what you want to do, increase the blower output. He even wanted to make the bigger fan from a C3 blower motor work, but it wouldn't fit the C2 confines. I believe the conclusion was that you have to live with the C2 blower output. I was very interested in the article, because I have a factory 67 AC car, so I know what you mean about the fairly feeble blower.
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From back in the day when I serviced Pontiacs, a common problem was the high speed fan relay going out. All else was normal in the system but the complaint was that the fan just wasn’t moving enough air. I would have that relay checked first. Assuming your Corvette has that relay. BTW, I think you are lucky to have a factory ac car. Take good care of her!
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If you think about it the heater and AC box and blower is the same size used in the full size GM cars with larger cabins compared to the smaller cabin of a mid year.
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From back in the day when I serviced Pontiacs, a common problem was the high speed fan relay going out. All else was normal in the system but the complaint was that the fan just wasn’t moving enough air. I would have that relay checked first. Assuming your Corvette has that relay. BTW, I think you are lucky to have a factory ac car. Take good care of her!
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I have a factory AC car and find that on high speed with a clean fan it moves enough air but any of the lower speeds don't cut it. IIRC, on high the fan is getting full 12 volts and there's a resister network in the blower housing for the lower speeds. I've considered paralleling a high wattage resister with the medium speed resister to drop the resistance slightly and raise the voltage to the motor at that setting. One of those 'when I get around to it' projects.
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I have a factory AC car and find that on high speed with a clean fan it moves enough air but any of the lower speeds don't cut it. IIRC, on high the fan is getting full 12 volts and there's a resister network in the blower housing for the lower speeds. I've considered paralleling a high wattage resister with the medium speed resister to drop the resistance slightly and raise the voltage to the motor at that setting. One of those 'when I get around to it' projects.
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A C2 with A/C has four setting on the fan. There is very low, low medium and high. You have no control over very low. As soon as you pull the **** to engage the compressor the fan goes to very low. from there you can click to low, medium and high. If you do not have the four speeds it could be a result of many problems. Most already mentioned here.
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A C2 with A/C has four setting on the fan. There is very low, low medium and high. You have no control over very low. As soon as you pull the **** to engage the compressor the fan goes to very low. from there you can click to low, medium and high. If you do not have the four speeds it could be a result of many problems. Most already mentioned here.
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Engaging the compressor forces the blower on low. There is no very low setting below low. This keeps the evaporator from freezing. This is true of all GM cars of the period. Air flow is not robust because of the size and routing of the ducts. A higher CFM fan would likely cause intolerable noise in the cabin.
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My 65 has 3 fan speeds which can be verified by checking the fan voltage at each setting. Yes, the fan comes on when you engage the compressor but unless something is going on I don't understand, there are only 3 fan speeds.
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There is nothing "wimpy" about the AC system in a C2. Nowhere Man is right it's virtually the same as the system in a full size Chevy . I've enjoyed many comfortable drives, on a hot summer day ,with the Air on and the top down ,in my 67 BB. The blower motor is a service replacement , around 40 years old, and the only problem I have is keeping the interior from getting too cold, with the top up. I'm still using R-12 , but from my experience using R-134A wouldn't make much of a difference
As an example , if i were to lean over, from the drivers seat to open the glove box , the a/c center vent would blow my hat off, and the air flow from the defroster can be felt above the sun visors. If your car won't do that there is something wrong, and it's not the system design, it's a component or components within the system
A resister controls fan speed , but the resistance in a 50 yr. old wire harness can do the same thing. A poor seal on the temp. blend door causes a pressure drop an reduction in air flow to the vents . Loose insulation on the back of the heater core mount can not only disrupt air flow, I've actually seen it stop a/c air flow . A poorly sealed heater box ,on both sides of the fire wall, relying on 50 year old gaskets an strip caulk , with a missing screw or two ,gently distributes more air to the engine bay, on the outside, and the the floor on the inside , than to the vents
Don't automatically condemn the blower motor , it's usually not the problem . No body would argue with rebuilding a 50 yr. old engine , the same applies to the heater a/c system , if you want it to work like new , then renew it, or reseal it as best you can.
As an example , if i were to lean over, from the drivers seat to open the glove box , the a/c center vent would blow my hat off, and the air flow from the defroster can be felt above the sun visors. If your car won't do that there is something wrong, and it's not the system design, it's a component or components within the system
A resister controls fan speed , but the resistance in a 50 yr. old wire harness can do the same thing. A poor seal on the temp. blend door causes a pressure drop an reduction in air flow to the vents . Loose insulation on the back of the heater core mount can not only disrupt air flow, I've actually seen it stop a/c air flow . A poorly sealed heater box ,on both sides of the fire wall, relying on 50 year old gaskets an strip caulk , with a missing screw or two ,gently distributes more air to the engine bay, on the outside, and the the floor on the inside , than to the vents
Don't automatically condemn the blower motor , it's usually not the problem . No body would argue with rebuilding a 50 yr. old engine , the same applies to the heater a/c system , if you want it to work like new , then renew it, or reseal it as best you can.
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There is nothing "wimpy" about the AC system in a C2. Nowhere Man is right it's virtually the same as the system in a full size Chevy . I've enjoyed many comfortable drives, on a hot summer day ,with the Air on and the top down ,in my 67 BB. The blower motor is a service replacement , around 40 years old, and the only problem I have is keeping the interior from getting too cold, with the top up. I'm still using R-12 , but from my experience using R-134A wouldn't make much of a difference
As an example , if i were to lean over, from the drivers seat to open the glove box , the a/c center vent would blow my hat off, and the air flow from the defroster can be felt above the sun visors. If your car won't do that there is something wrong, and it's not the system design, it's a component or components within the system.
As an example , if i were to lean over, from the drivers seat to open the glove box , the a/c center vent would blow my hat off, and the air flow from the defroster can be felt above the sun visors. If your car won't do that there is something wrong, and it's not the system design, it's a component or components within the system.
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Well, I studied the chart. Today I started the car to cycle the oil in the A/C system and went for a ride. It may be my imagination. When I pull the lever to turn on the A/C the fan does come on low. Here is my imagination. When I turn the fan speed **** to the first setting I swear the fan speed increases, but not by much. The next two fan speed setting are noticeable higher.
Anyway, the diagram is the diagram.
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Anyway, the diagram is the diagram.
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