[C1] Fuelie or not?
#21
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This is the air cleaner nut plate on my '60. Note all the factory glop which partially covers it. If I were to remove it, the underlying fiberglass would be clean and smooth. You can also see the rivet in the center.
How does this compare to what you see on your car?
Can you see anything in the pictures? What’s your thoughts?
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Wow, this is freaky. I just got a text from my wife. We are having a garage sale this weekend and by coincidence the previous-previous (not the guy I bought it off of but the one before him) owner shows up and starts talking to my wife about the Vette. She knew I was checking this out and she asked him about it. The guy says yes, he thought it was a fuelie, but it had a 427 in it when he got it. How crazy is that? I knew the guy still lived in this area and was looking to find him. So with that bit of info. I would say it probably was a fuelie.
#26
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Here's a picture of the washer system in the assembly manual. Also, here's a picture from my 61 FI car taken from the passenger side wheel. You can see the 3 vertical fasteners for the heat shield and the 4 fasteners for the reservoir mounting bracket. Washer system is pretty much buried under the fresh air hose to the heater and couldn't get a good pic of it.
Mac
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macster-
Thanks for the pics! I'll look for some more holes when I get home tonight. Just by looking at the picture I have here, it looks like they are there.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the pics! I'll look for some more holes when I get home tonight. Just by looking at the picture I have here, it looks like they are there.
Thanks again.
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There is no doubt that your car has been equipped with fuel injection at some time in its history. No doubt at all.
However, absent the nut plate up high in the wheel well or evidence of its prior existance, claiming that it's a factory fuelie is still a bit of a stretch.
Jim
#30
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Whoa there big fella, not so fast.
There is no doubt that your car has been equipped with fuel injection at some time in its history. No doubt at all.
However, absent the nut plate up high in the wheel well or evidence of its prior existance, claiming that it's a factory fuelie is still a bit of a stretch.
Jim
There is no doubt that your car has been equipped with fuel injection at some time in its history. No doubt at all.
However, absent the nut plate up high in the wheel well or evidence of its prior existance, claiming that it's a factory fuelie is still a bit of a stretch.
Jim
Ha....yeah, you're probably right. But really, who would go to the trouble of doing it all exactly right with the air cleaner, the windshield fluid, and the heat shield? Can we agree on 99% sure? I mean really it was just a car back then.
Thanks for all your help!
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Weeeelllll, I would and that's why I urge caution and restraint in claiming it's a factory fuelie.
To put a finer point on it..... I researched the configuration of factory fuelie '57 passenger cars to the n-th degree and then built one. You can't tell it's not authentic. There is no reason someone couldn't and didn't do the same thing with your car.
Show me evidence there was a nut plate and I'll shut up.
Jim
#33
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Very cool Joe. So anyway.
I’m talking to my wife about this and I was saying “ I wish I knew when that guy bought it.” Then she says 1965. Im like what? So who would do that? Then she says “He used to race it”. It had a 427 c.in. in it when he bought it and I do remember that the guy I bought it off of said it had a big block in it at one time.
I’m talking to my wife about this and I was saying “ I wish I knew when that guy bought it.” Then she says 1965. Im like what? So who would do that? Then she says “He used to race it”. It had a 427 c.in. in it when he bought it and I do remember that the guy I bought it off of said it had a big block in it at one time.
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The big hole in the firewall for the tach - is a sure sign
It is def factory done.
The nut plate could have been left off or removed at some point
but the glass under the nut plate is clean......
It is def factory done.
The nut plate could have been left off or removed at some point
but the glass under the nut plate is clean......
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Good observation about the length. And the artifact where the rivet ought to have been looks off center (could be camera angle, though).
I can think of two possibilities:
1. The car is a factory fuelie and the left front fender has been replaced. That would explain the missing nut plate and the signs of an NTP replacement.
2. A motivated owner created a fuelie clone.
Given the available evidence, it can't be determined which of the two possibilities is the real story.
Jim
#39
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There are a couple more clues to look for. If your car was an original high horse power fuelie then in it would also have the holes and nut plates for the retainers for fresh air hose that ran from the air cleaner to the core support. Also, the horn relay was mounted lower to clear the hose. Check out the layout from the assembly manual. My 61 fuelie is the low HP model and did not have the fresh air hose and does not have the holes or nut plates.
#40
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OK, I'm back. LOL
It looks to me as though most everything that you guys told me to look for is there.
So about the fuel injected emblems on the side fender. How do I go about looking in the inner fender and seeing evidence of the emblems without tearing the car apart? There should be 3 holes on each side, right?
Thanks.
It looks to me as though most everything that you guys told me to look for is there.
So about the fuel injected emblems on the side fender. How do I go about looking in the inner fender and seeing evidence of the emblems without tearing the car apart? There should be 3 holes on each side, right?
Thanks.