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Old 01-30-2018, 01:14 PM
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On last nights edition of TV Show, Strange Inheritance, a 67 Coupe was featured. A "Dimple" under the Hood that is sometimes sanded off of restored cars, was discussed. Can anyone clarify or even better, offer a photo of this mysterious Dimple? Thank You, Al W.

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Engaging in pure speculation now, but perhaps there was more than one supplier for the front top surround and thus different molds - one with the bump and one without? A way to distingush between suppliers, perhaps?

Strange that this would appear in both 64s and 67s!
Nope. The heated matched mold pair for a large panel like the upper surround were extremely expensive, and there was only one set; as I recall, the midyear surrounds were manufactured by the Molded Fiber Glass company in Ashtabula, Ohio. Photo below shows loading the upper surround press with the mat pre-form and precision-measured quantity () of resin before closing the mold.
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It's actually a flattened pimple, that people call a dimple (which would be an indent). It is ahead of the 13th grill bar about 3/8" on driver's side.

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believe it's at the 13th rib
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It's actually a flattened pimple, that people call a dimple (which would be an indent). It is ahead of the 13th grill bar about 3/8" on driver's side.

Yes - as show...just ahead of the 13th cowl vent on all midyears; it was from a defect in the mold. It can be reproduced with a drop of resin..
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As discussed on the show last night, not all 67s have that mark. My 67 - in my ownership since Sept 1971, from the original owner and known to me since new - does not have it.

It is VIN xxxxx4011, born 11/18/66 +/-.
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Interesting....I attended a Lakeland judging seminar where it was stated they all have it, Just repeating what was said.. I certainly have no dog in the fight.

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As discussed on the show last night, not all 67s have that mark. My 67 - in my ownership since Sept 1971, from the original owner and known to me since new - does not have it.

It is VIN xxxxx4011, born 11/18/66 +/-.
Someone scraped yours off with a razor blade one night when you were asleep.
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Someone scraped yours off with a razor blade one night when you were asleep.
LOL. In the words of my favorite actor Sam Elliott - “ Ah doubt it....”

Seriously tho - the show last night discussed that issue. The guy from Mecom who evaluated the car for the auction said their reseach showed a VIN range on known to be original 67s that did not have the bunp.

Personally I could GAS as my car is not NCRS and never will be. However I do have 47 years of ownership and all 51 years of history including the bill of sale from the dealer and the POP.
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The question, to my mind, is -- if it was truly a defect in the mold from the beginning, how could any car not have it...

Unless it was physically removed as part of factory prep for some period??
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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
LOL. In the words of my favorite actor Sam Elliott - “ Ah doubt it....”

Seriously tho - the show last night discussed that issue. The guy from Mecom who evaluated the car for the auction said their reseach showed a VIN range on known to be original 67s that did not have the bunp.

Personally I could GAS as my car is not NCRS and never will be. However I do have 47 years of ownership and all 51 years of history including the bill of sale from the dealer and the POP.
I know, I watched it too. I realize that for some reason the little burp did not appear in the gutter on some cars. Maybe a bit of crud in the indent in the mold. But, I know for a fact on your car, someone snuck in your garage and scraped it.......
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Hey Glenn, Is your car a St.Louis or A.O.Smith car? The reason I ask is my 65 A.O.Smith car with original paint has no trace of the pimple however my 65 St. Louis car that has been repainted still has one. Since each plant had their own molds, I wonder if that could be where the discrepancy lies.
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Hmmm - body # S2226 (convertible) here, so no help on that one......
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I think it is generally understood that only the first couple thousand 67's produced still retained the "pimple defect" in the hood surround mold. By early Nov, I don't believe there has been an un-restored original 67 that has the "pimple". So its mostly a 63-66 thing. Bill
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Like many of you, I went out to the garage immediately after the show. My '67 is a Smith body, early production and does not have it. The car was repainted so it could have been scraped off.
That was a great show but that episode should be called Sweet Inheritance.
Thanks to our Veterans for making stories like these possible.
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As always, many Thanks for sharing! Al W.
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Originally Posted by 1snake
Hey Glenn, Is your car a St.Louis or A.O.Smith car? The reason I ask is my 65 A.O.Smith car with original paint has no trace of the pimple however my 65 St. Louis car that has been repainted still has one. Since each plant had their own molds, I wonder if that could be where the discrepancy lies.
When did DOW Smith and Owings Corner start to supplie all the panels?

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What I would like to know is, how is it possible for cars within a certain vin sequence not have the dimple only to have it reappear? Not saying it's impossible but it does seem unlikely.
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OK, it's out to the garage to check my cars.........
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
When did DOW Smith and Owings Corner start to supplie all the panels?
Not exactly sure what you are asking, but the Dow (AO) Smith body production in Ionia Michigan ran from the 1964 thru 1967 model years only. It was all consolidated at the St Louis plant in 1968.

AFAIK Owens Corning had nothing to do with supplying the panels on C2s. Raw fiberglass matting maybe.

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