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Old 12-20-2016, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Procrastinateur
I'd be worried about the *patients that went into building it.
*patience
Hopefully no "patients" had to work on this project, since they should be resting.
Old 12-20-2016, 10:49 PM
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To me, it signifies that the owner is a member of NCRS, similar to a person putting a AAA, State Farm, KKK, BLM, etc. sticker on their car, nothing more, nothing less. Don't read into it more than it needs to be.
Old 12-22-2016, 08:37 AM
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Folks - You have no idea how bad it can get. I recently attended a Porsche judging school. Two very important facts I learned.

1. Porsche events are competitive. Only one car can win. There is no set standard. The purpose of judging is to determine which car is the cleanest. We were told to always check the backside of the brake pedal because most people do not clean and wax the backside of the pedals.

We were also instructed to check for blades of grass in the tire treads.

2. There are no standards for originality. At the national level it is simply a contest to find the cleanest cars. At the annual Porsche Parade the only difference between 1st and 2nd place this past year was a blade of grass on one of the tires.

I would be the first one to admit to NCRS problems - My member number is 365

On the other hand NCRS is still the gold standard for marque judging.

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Old 12-22-2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rfn026
I would be the first one to admit to NCRS problems - My member number is 365

Richard Newton


What year did you join?
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Old 12-22-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Procrastinateur
I'd be worried about the patients that went into building it.
Or how about this:
This one of a kind built even stuck the eye of famous car designer George Barris the king of customer car builders.

That thing is like a stick in the eye to me too.
Old 12-22-2016, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rfn026
Folks - You have no idea how bad it can get. I recently attended a Porsche judging school. Two very important facts I learned.

1. Porsche events are competitive. Only one car can win. There is no set standard. The purpose of judging is to determine which car is the cleanest. We were told to always check the backside of the brake pedal because most people do not clean and wax the backside of the pedals.

We were also instructed to check for blades of grass in the tire treads.

2. There are no standards for originality. At the national level it is simply a contest to find the cleanest cars. At the annual Porsche Parade the only difference between 1st and 2nd place this past year was a blade of grass on one of the tires.

I would be the first one to admit to NCRS problems - My member number is 365

On the other hand NCRS is still the gold standard for marque judging.

The Porsche Concours College

The Epistemology of Restoration



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Corvette America has shows exactly like that.
Old 12-22-2016, 11:25 PM
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No biggie. Anybody can display this one.



NCRS member logo

But you have to earn this one.






NCRS Top Flight license plate tag
Old 12-23-2016, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rfn026
Folks - You have no idea how bad it can get. I recently attended a Porsche judging school. Two very important facts I learned.

1. Porsche events are competitive. Only one car can win. There is no set standard. The purpose of judging is to determine which car is the cleanest. We were told to always check the backside of the brake pedal because most people do not clean and wax the backside of the pedals.

We were also instructed to check for blades of grass in the tire treads.

2. There are no standards for originality. At the national level it is simply a contest to find the cleanest cars. At the annual Porsche Parade the only difference between 1st and 2nd place this past year was a blade of grass on one of the tires.
Most of the hard core outdoor judging events go after pebbles or grass in the tire treads. I learned in the 70's to carry a long, superthin flat head screwdriver in my prep kit to remove all bits from each tire opening.

I judged at Valparaiso one year and in the 80-82 class there were 2 Corvettes that were in a dead heat, and they had a high point system with lots of places for deductions. Stiil had trouble separating the cars. I finally had to pull apart the pleats in the seats with my fingers on each one of the cars and eliminate one for more debris than the other. There wasn't much.
Old 12-24-2016, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by big block ken
No biggie. Anybody can display this one.



NCRS member logo

But you have to earn this one.






NCRS Top Flight license plate tag
I have one, earned it and bought the tag BUT anyone can buy the tag.

Old 12-24-2016, 12:28 AM
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The NCRS is starting a new Concours / Modified judging class.

http://www.ncrs.org/forums/showthread.php?115814
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ohiovet
Maybe it is a NCRS "Not Correctly Restored Stingray" sticker......

Nice sticker, saw on the Power Tour a few years ago.
Proudly displayed!!



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Without these NCRS benchmark cars, we'd have the Corvette Summer vette as a reference for originality. If a classic Corvette is close enough to Top Flight quality, it pays (literally $) to go for it. Especially if it's a survivor and preserved, not restored. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense IMO to do a resto mod or whatever you want it to be. And all of us will still be envied and ignored by the Corvette haters. Regardless, we're all family.


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Old 12-24-2016, 10:25 AM
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Just goes to show you, people seem to need something to argue about.

If they don't have something to argue about, they'll make something up.
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:41 AM
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Sure sounds like a lot of fun doesn't it?

No thanks, I'll pass.

Originally Posted by rfn026
Folks - You have no idea how bad it can get. I recently attended a Porsche judging school. Two very important facts I learned.

1. Porsche events are competitive. Only one car can win. There is no set standard. The purpose of judging is to determine which car is the cleanest. We were told to always check the backside of the brake pedal because most people do not clean and wax the backside of the pedals.

We were also instructed to check for blades of grass in the tire treads.

2. There are no standards for originality. At the national level it is simply a contest to find the cleanest cars. At the annual Porsche Parade the only difference between 1st and 2nd place this past year was a blade of grass on one of the tires.

I would be the first one to admit to NCRS problems - My member number is 365

On the other hand NCRS is still the gold standard for marque judging.

The Porsche Concours College

The Epistemology of Restoration



Richard Newton
Old 12-25-2016, 11:01 AM
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I'll never be going to a car show where they're worried about grass blades in my tire tread... If that's the level of their judging criteria I'll stay home.

There are plenty of close-to-original cars that shouldn't be gutted because they aren't Top Flight or a complete 'survivor'. Pretty biased opinion I'm thinking...

My numbers matching '61 had a non-factory color...should I have just doused it in kerosene and torched it ?

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Old 12-26-2016, 12:26 PM
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Well, at least it was 'build professionally', and 'stuck the eye of George Barris'......If I were trying to sell a car for north of 100k and had the spelling/grammar skill level of a first grader, I'd hire someone to write the copy for me! Car looks well done, though, in all seriousness. Not my style, but well done!
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Just my contribution to the "rebel" in me...and I DO appreciate those unrestored original Vettes.





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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino
Just goes to show you, people seem to need something to argue about.

If they don't have something to argue about, they'll make something up.
And some people will argue with a stop sign!
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Here is one to argue about, or laugh at, IGNORE or whatever.

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