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Old 03-18-2015, 02:41 AM
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I like my patina too.

Here's picture of my 49 Indian Arrow




and 48 Autocar 10 wheeler




61 Corvette painted in 1976



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Old 03-18-2015, 07:34 AM
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Dom - I would think long and hard before stripping off that 51 year old paint.

I was amazed at how much good an afternoon with a claybar, touch-up paint, and Zaino polish did for my 54 year old paint!
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My problem is that there are cracks in the paint, mostly around the hood opening. I had it under a "good" cover one winter before I had a garage and it was covered with snow. When I took the cover off, there were cracks on it. I wish it could be taken care of with a clay bar. I'm afraid I'm going to have to repaint. But, original color and maybe even lacquer. Dupont gave me the mixing ratios many years ago.
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Originally Posted by Bowlerdude
A driver quality paint job is one that reflects what the factory originally did. Simple as that.

Corvettes that are painted today are by and large extremely over-restored. These cars never left the factory looking that way.

Now I don't have a problem with anyone that wants a perfect paint job and is willing to pay the price for it. The problem is the painter that won't take your job unless you're willing to spend $20,000.00!!

I like to drive my Vettes but I don't want to sweat driving a car with $20k paint. For those that can fine, I can't.
Not nearly as simple as that.

Most people that want driver quality paint jobs (they say) have no idea what a factory lacquer job looks like. They would be grossed out by the duller shine, "knocked down" door jamb gloss, and what have you on a car fresh from the factory. People spend big $$$ to emulate a factory finish for judging -- it costs way more than a 'scuff and shoot' job...

They want shiny, pretty paint for cheap.

I would put either of my cars up against a $20K paint job proudly -- and I do nearly every weekend at Old Town!

The '61 paint was $7K in 2008 and the '63 paint was $10K in 2009. Will they pass judging - hell no!
Both jobs were complete disassembly, strip (minor body work), prime, spray and reassembly - I didn't lift a finger except to write a check.

And, my friend, I drive the snot out of my cars...

You can shop around and get a great, reasonably priced paint job if your bodywork is decent, you have some negotiation skills and you don't have to call it "driver quality".

I'm fine with 'patina'; especially on true survivor cars. When your paint approaches the 'ratty' category; patina is just an excuse to drive a car with a bad paint job IMO...
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DomL64
SDvette.
My problem is that there are cracks in the paint, mostly around the hood opening. I had it under a "good" cover one winter before I had a garage and it was covered with snow. When I took the cover off, there were cracks on it. I wish it could be taken care of with a clay bar. I'm afraid I'm going to have to repaint. But, original color and maybe even lacquer. Dupont gave me the mixing ratios many years ago.
Don't have a Tizzy over the cracks. They're lines of distinction.
PRAISE THEM !!!
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PRAISE THE PATINA'D ROAD WARRIORS !!!
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Originally Posted by DomL64
SDvette.
My problem is that there are cracks in the paint, mostly around the hood opening. I had it under a "good" cover one winter before I had a garage and it was covered with snow. When I took the cover off, there were cracks on it. I wish it could be taken care of with a clay bar. I'm afraid I'm going to have to repaint. But, original color and maybe even lacquer. Dupont gave me the mixing ratios many years ago.
Mine has a few cracks too... and some of the areas I filled with touch-up paint were larger than a quarter... but they seem to disappear when you look at the "whole car" - especially on a sunny day with shiny new chrome and interior!

I'm a big believer in doing what will make YOU happy on YOUR car... but you can never "un-do" the removal of the original paint.



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True SD. A car is original only once.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I would put either of my cars up against a $20K paint job proudly...

The '61 paint was $7K in 2008 and the '63 paint was $10K in 2009.
Where I live (SoCal) you couldn't have either one of those cars painted today for less than $15k! Probably closer to $20k..so you actually do have a couple of $20k paint jobs!

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Most people that want driver quality paint jobs (they say) have no idea what a factory lacquer job looks like. They would be grossed out by the duller shine, "knocked down" door jamb gloss, and what have you on a car fresh from the factory. People spend big $$$ to emulate a factory finish for judging -- it costs way more than a 'scuff and shoot' job...
I wasn't talking about an NCRS judged type of paint job. Simply a factory type job that is representative of what one might expect to get on any new car. The shops around here aren't interested in doing your Corvette unless you're willing to spend $15k to $20k and I don't care how great the body is or how good your negotiating skills are. lol

I drive my cars a lot more than just to a cruise in or to a show on a weekend and I'm not interested in having my cars judged either. But I like to have my cars look as close to original as possible. But I'm not up for driving them if I have to worry about it. I'm sure that if someone wants their Acura, Lexus or whatever painted it's not going to cost $20k. I doubt that it would cost that much to paint a daily driver 92 Vette either, but the second you mention that you have a classic Corvette the price skyrockets even if it's never been hit.

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Here's my "patina" car - '69 Z/28, 100% original lacquer paint; aside from a "CE" short block installed in June, 1970, it's untouched and exactly as it was built except for the battery, exhaust, and tires.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Here's my "patina" car - '69 Z/28, 100% original lacquer paint; aside from a "CE" short block installed in June, 1970, it's untouched and exactly as it was built except for the battery, exhaust, and tires.
Nice looking car John.

Hope you aren't "grossed out by the duller shine". lol
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"grossed out by the duller shine"..............Not a Chance!

John,
Your car is stunning
Thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted by Bowlerdude

.................... but the second you mention that you have a classic Corvette the price skyrockets even if it's never been hit.
How much would you charge just to talk to some of these guys that want their midyear painted, never mind doing the work and then having to listen to them some more about fixing this, fixing that, and on and on and on............!

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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Here's my "patina" car - '69 Z/28, 100% original lacquer paint; aside from a "CE" short block installed in June, 1970, it's untouched and exactly as it was built except for the battery, exhaust, and tires.
JohnZ:

Beautiful car………I love the 1969 Z/28. You need to also show your 1967 Corvette, as it is also a very beautiful looking car.

Both are excellent choices.

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My 1957 NCRS 5 star bowtie car. About 90% original paint.
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As long as primer counts. Here's one with primer and some original paint.
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Originally Posted by Brian VH McHale
That paint is beautiful, I wouldn't touch it. I bet that car gets all the attention at cruise nights and shows.
Thank you.
No plans to paint it in my lifetime!
It does get a lot of comments, most all of them positive.
I was at a show a few weeks ago where they parked me next to some C6s. Near the end of the show the guy next to me remarked, “I’m really surprised how many people walk right by our shiny cars and stop at yours and start up a conversation.”
People respond to patina.
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Originally Posted by 56dave
My 1957 NCRS 5 star bowtie car. About 90% original paint.
What a wonderful car!
Congratulations

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Originally Posted by 56dave
as long as primer counts. Here's one with primer and some original paint.
that car is bitchin' !!!
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Here is "custom" red heavy metal flake painted in 1965
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Originally Posted by csherman
Here is "custom" red heavy metal flake painted in 1965
love this car too.


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