Leak at Windshield: Corvette Body Shop or Auto Glass Shop?
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Leak at Windshield: Corvette Body Shop or Auto Glass Shop?
I've got at least one leaky windshield corner on my '67 coupe in Sunnyvale, CA. What kind of establishment would be the better choice for solving this: A body shop speciallizing in Corvettes, especially early generations (I'm thinking of ***** O'hara's), or an auto glass shop?
Also, does the metal windshield moulding play any part in watertightness? The geniuses who painted my car many years ago, among their other failings, were somehow unable to reinstall the left upper corner moulding, and (I'm embarrassed to admit ), i've never done anything about it. I do plan to attend to that at the same time as I get the leak fixed.
Steve
Also, does the metal windshield moulding play any part in watertightness? The geniuses who painted my car many years ago, among their other failings, were somehow unable to reinstall the left upper corner moulding, and (I'm embarrassed to admit ), i've never done anything about it. I do plan to attend to that at the same time as I get the leak fixed.
Steve
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It could be a number of things. I would first take it to auto glass shop that knows how to work with a rope sealed windshield
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Is this even a question - are you really gonna take your classic Corvette to a garden-variety glass shop whose work consists 99.9% of gluing in modern windshields ?
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
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Is this even a question - are you really gonna take your classic Corvette to a garden-variety glass shop whose work consists 99.9% of gluing in modern windshields ?
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
Excellent points. Do I sound less silly if I say I was REALLY leaning toward the Corvette body shop?
I do appreciate the advice. Thanks.
Also thanks to NM for the lesson in terminology: rope-sealed
Steve
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I would contact the corvette shop and ask them who they use for windshield work. Some shops have a local glass guy they use. If they have one perhaps you can go straight to him. IMO its worth a try. Good Luck.
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Personally, I don't know of a single classic Corvette body/restoration shop around me that doesn't do their own glass work....sorta comes with the turf....
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Corvettes are not the only car to use windshield rope ruber. Like I said find a shop that knows what there doing. Why pay Corvette tax at a shop
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Is this even a question - are you really gonna take your classic Corvette to a garden-variety glass shop whose work consists 99.9% of gluing in modern windshields ?
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
I don't really want somebody 'learning on the job' with an original windshield; hard to replace stainless steel molding; or; possibly irreplaceable clips (like on a '63)..
Frank,
If I knew of a good shop in my area I would simply pull the mouldings (inner and outer) and then take it to the shop. The clips for the windshields other than 63's are readily available. I purchased some for my car a few years ago. Mine still has a minor leak but I don't have any shop in my area that I trust to do the work and get it right.
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How have you determined that the leak is actually at the corner of your windshield? Which corner is it? If the passenger side, take the glove box out and observe the birdcage frame at the base of the windshield. If it's the driver side, just get your flashlight and prepare too contort yourself too look up and under that section of the dash. Also, it is very possible the weatherstrip pieces where the doors meet the roof pillar are so mashed from age, it lets water leak in right at the kick panel corners by the pinch welt. Leaks on these cars can be difficult too trace. Dennis
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Frank,
If I knew of a good shop in my area I would simply pull the mouldings (inner and outer) and then take it to the shop. The clips for the windshields other than 63's are readily available. I purchased some for my car a few years ago. Mine still has a minor leak but I don't have any shop in my area that I trust to do the work and get it right.
If I knew of a good shop in my area I would simply pull the mouldings (inner and outer) and then take it to the shop. The clips for the windshields other than 63's are readily available. I purchased some for my car a few years ago. Mine still has a minor leak but I don't have any shop in my area that I trust to do the work and get it right.
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I've got at least one leaky windshield corner on my '67 coupe in Sunnyvale, CA. What kind of establishment would be the better choice for solving this: A body shop speciallizing in Corvettes, especially early generations (I'm thinking of ***** O'hara's), or an auto glass shop?
Also, does the metal windshield moulding play any part in watertightness? The geniuses who painted my car many years ago, among their other failings, were somehow unable to reinstall the left upper corner moulding, and (I'm embarrassed to admit ), i've never done anything about it. I do plan to attend to that at the same time as I get the leak fixed.
Steve
Also, does the metal windshield moulding play any part in watertightness? The geniuses who painted my car many years ago, among their other failings, were somehow unable to reinstall the left upper corner moulding, and (I'm embarrassed to admit ), i've never done anything about it. I do plan to attend to that at the same time as I get the leak fixed.
Steve
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How have you determined that the leak is actually at the corner of your windshield? Which corner is it? If the passenger side, take the glove box out and observe the birdcage frame at the base of the windshield. If it's the driver side, just get your flashlight and prepare too contort yourself too look up and under that section of the dash. Also, it is very possible the weatherstrip pieces where the doors meet the roof pillar are so mashed from age, it lets water leak in right at the kick panel corners by the pinch welt. Leaks on these cars can be difficult too trace. Dennis
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The biggest challenge these days when working on the windshield are the variations in glass thickness, weatherstrip thickness, and the reproduction clips. I am not even talking about reproduction moldings added to the mix. Back in the day, dealing with a windshield job was no big deal, you got the weatherstrip, and clips from GM and the glass was a standard thickness, and everything fit together like it was supposed to.
Do yourself a favor and confirm where the leak is coming from first before diving in. If it is the windshield, if should be possible to remove the moldings and re seal if your clips are OK, if not the glass will have to come out. Pilot Dan
Do yourself a favor and confirm where the leak is coming from first before diving in. If it is the windshield, if should be possible to remove the moldings and re seal if your clips are OK, if not the glass will have to come out. Pilot Dan
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"old guys" must die off a lot quicker in big cities. I've lived in big cities also, but I now live in the same small town I was born in, and we have a lot of "old guys" that know how to work on these old cars. there's a speedometer guy here that must be in his mid 80s now, and still has his shop. I remember having him repair a speedo for me when I was in high school. transmission guy (also shortens drive shafts)… same deal (he IS getting a bit senile however ) . the old glass guy still comes to your house or work parking lot to replace windshields. he can rope in the new glass in about 5 minutes and it will NOT leak or have sealant smeared all over the car.
No particular point to this reply….. I'm just counting my blessings.
Russ
No particular point to this reply….. I'm just counting my blessings.
Russ
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When starting my body off on my 66, I called a mobile glass shop and asked them to send me a tech who could remove and install the front and back glass on my coupe. After the car came back from the paint shop, I installed any missing pins for the trim, bought all new rubber from Corvette Rubber. I also bought new trim clips (made in USA) and had the trim polished. The same guy that removed the glass came back, about 18 months later, and installed it all for me. It really helps to have all the parts and finished trim on hand for him. It was really a quick process. It was so easy, that I installed the glass on my 70 SS Chevelle by myself. Jerry
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Thank you Also a valid point, but:
A) Sometimes one gets unexpected rain or finds oneself out longer than you expect
and
B) Sometimes one washes one's car
(Yes, I can be cautious around the known leaky spots....)
Steve
A) Sometimes one gets unexpected rain or finds oneself out longer than you expect
and
B) Sometimes one washes one's car
(Yes, I can be cautious around the known leaky spots....)
Steve
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When starting my body off on my 66, I called a mobile glass shop and asked them to send me a tech who could remove and install the front and back glass on my coupe. After the car came back from the paint shop, I installed any missing pins for the trim, bought all new rubber from Corvette Rubber. I also bought new trim clips (made in USA) and had the trim polished. The same guy that removed the glass came back, about 18 months later, and installed it all for me. It really helps to have all the parts and finished trim on hand for him. It was really a quick process. It was so easy, that I installed the glass on my 70 SS Chevelle by myself. Jerry
Steve