What is the ideal horse power for a 327
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Horsepower is what you brag about. Torque is what you drive.
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If its a NOM car, just go buy a 383 roller cam motor and be done with it.
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I also agree that the L76 and fuelie may have been more interesting to Bubba and his buddies, but it varies with the individual car.
In keeping with the state of the technology and era of the car, I feel that the L76 is a good match, particularly with low rear gears, and no power or comfort accessories. Raw in nature, and requires some maintenance effort. The fuelie, too.
It all depends on what you want it for.
You gotta drive your own drive - not someone else's drive.
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I had a 300hp with a 3:55 rear and it was pretty quick plus it would run fine one any grade gas. It didn't require adjustments all the time and could sit in traffic all day long at 180 degrees. Just depends on how you want to use the car.
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consider you personal driving style preference too. Max torque for standard 250/300/350/365 is roughly the same, but they deliver it at increasing rpm. Or put differently: for identical torque, you get it at lower rpm in a 250hp compared to a 365hp.I had a 365hp solid lifter, and I did not like it , while others who are more into intimidating exhaust/engine sound and speed will adore it.
If you are of the 'relax' type, then going lower in hp may actually please you more than you would think
If you are of the 'relax' type, then going lower in hp may actually please you more than you would think
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Mine made 370 RWHP with a 250/250 solid roller, 750 DP, open headers, and .610 lift. I ported the shlt out of those heads all the way to 185cc intake runners.
I don't think those heads are capable of 500 HP,,,,,,,,unless..............some very trick bronze brazing and numerical controlled machine work is done to them.
I have aluminum 205 cc heads on it now, and it makes 414 RWHP. Which is ?????????? flywheel HP.
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You said 65-67... the 365 was on its way out in 65 and not offered in 66-67.
So, I think everyone is "assuming" you are referring to the main choices of 300/350 for 66-67.
So, I think everyone is "assuming" you are referring to the main choices of 300/350 for 66-67.
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Both are great motors, the main difference being that the 365 hp has solid lifters, which, as pointed out was ended in '65 where as the 350 hp is hydraulic for '66 & '67. Actually I think most would prefer the 365 hp motor. I know I would, 'cause its got more ponies.
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I have a big horsepower 350 in my old C4. When I back out of the garage at Homestead people think the motor is broken We're talking seriously rough and lumpy. Then when I come down the front straight at 8000 rpm they love the sound.
I just know I would never want to drive the C4 more than 5 miles on the street. That's why I have a 283 Powerglide in my '58.
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I just know I would never want to drive the C4 more than 5 miles on the street. That's why I have a 283 Powerglide in my '58.
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When I was shopping for a '66 coupe I reluctantly drove an OM 300hp. I was sold on the 300hp 327, I would rather have a 350hp with the hydraulic lifters (sorry, I simply want to assemble it and then never touch it again) but I was really surprised how useable the 300hp mill is.
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I was following the thread topicIdeal HP for 327!
Hello and thank you. I have owned a 1978 and 1993 in the past but am starting over and looking for a 65 - 67 with a small block & 4 speed. I have been advised by several to stick with the 300 hp (or less) engine to avoid fuel related issues, such as engine knock, having to retard timing, etc. I am told the higher horsepower 327 engines have a higher compression ration and do not play well with today's fuels.
Is this good advice as it does limit my selection even further; any suggestions would be appreciated.
My goal is to find a car I can drive on occasion, exhibit at the local car shows and would present itself well if judged. I just retired and I can not think of a better way to enjoy myself.
Any help you could lend would be greatly appreciated.
Is this good advice as it does limit my selection even further; any suggestions would be appreciated.
My goal is to find a car I can drive on occasion, exhibit at the local car shows and would present itself well if judged. I just retired and I can not think of a better way to enjoy myself.
Any help you could lend would be greatly appreciated.
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I would say!
Have you ever built a 327 with ported double humps that made 500 HP? Seems impossible, even with a huge cam.
Mine made 370 RWHP with a 250/250 solid roller, 750 DP, open headers, and .610 lift. I ported the shlt out of those heads all the way to 185cc intake runners.
I don't think those heads are capable of 500 HP,,,,,,,,unless..............some very trick bronze brazing and numerical controlled machine work is done to them.
I have aluminum 205 cc heads on it now, and it makes 414 RWHP. Which is ?????????? flywheel HP.
Mine made 370 RWHP with a 250/250 solid roller, 750 DP, open headers, and .610 lift. I ported the shlt out of those heads all the way to 185cc intake runners.
I don't think those heads are capable of 500 HP,,,,,,,,unless..............some very trick bronze brazing and numerical controlled machine work is done to them.
I have aluminum 205 cc heads on it now, and it makes 414 RWHP. Which is ?????????? flywheel HP.
Ps if you have an engine and just plan a rebuild with some added prep- then you are not looking for Ideal HP! HP is created by flowing and maximizing the potential at a specific Cubic Inch. Therefore i see the max with reliability and tractability for a 327 being maxed at around 500hp on dyno for the guys that are going out to buy some new heads, a new cam! Even the old school Iron Bowties Phase 2's can easily be ported with reliability to make 500hp. Fopr a perfect nostalgic build, I would use an Iron bowtie block and not a production one, unless it was one of the truly high quality ones! I would iron bowtie head it and pick the cam of choice as per what you are looking for and then hang stock looking components to that base and have something better than stock, if you aren't numbers matching! I would honestly rather have top GM Bowtie performance parts (blocks and heads etc.) than a numbers matching stock engine or a butchered numbers matching engine filled with non NOS components. The simple fact you would be paying big money to find original edge orfice lifters and 30-30 cams etc or the L-79 components mades me sneer at those guys claiming numbers matching!!! while they mention there comp cams, edlebrock crap this or that! It is getting to be a rarity to come across a numbers matching engine that was assembled with all NOS parts! Therefore as soon as that in your build changes, then why stop there!
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