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Old 07-25-2014, 09:01 PM
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Just bought this car (64 coupe/327) and when I picked it up and looking at the engine, I couldn't believe my eyes. There was no place to add oil. How did the previous owner add oil? I can't spot it in the pictures, can you. I don't want to loose my valve covers, so do I change the intake to an Edlebrock 2703 and tell me if my acceleration linkage is correct, do I have the spring in the right place, ya, I know I need a manual, its on order.
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If you bought the correct intake you could fill the oil with out removing a valve cover. You could get 69 on up alum covers
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Originally Posted by Egor01
Just bought this car (64 coupe/327) and when I picked it up and looking at the engine, I couldn't believe my eyes. There was no place to add oil. How did the previous owner add oil? I can't spot it in the pictures, can you. I don't want to loose my valve covers, so do I change the intake to an Edlebrock 2703 and tell me if my acceleration linkage is correct, do I have the spring in the right place, ya, I know I need a manual, its on order.
Thanks, Leo
That Edelbrock Performer intake has no provision for an oil fill tube, and it has a Rochester Quadra-Jet carburetor, which was never used on a Corvette prior to 1968. You need an OEM or similar intake with an oil fill tube provision (which will also provide a functioning PCV system, which is also missing), and either a Carter AFB or a Holley 2818, depending on which engine it's supposed to be. That will also allow you to use the correct air cleaner, which won't fit on the Q-Jet carb.
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Leo, I'll take a shot... is he pouring it through the "draft-tube" at the rear of the intake that goes into the back of the block?

GUSTO

P.S. Based on the picture in your temp gauge thread, there is a boss on the front of your intake manifold that can be machined to accept a standard oil fill tube.

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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
Leo, I'll take a shot... is he pouring it through the "draft-tube" at the rear of the intake that goes into the back of the block?

GUSTO

P.S. Based on the picture in your temp gauge thread, there is a boss on the front of your intake manifold that can be machined to accept a standard oil fill tube.
>Is he pouring it through the "draft-tube" at the rear of the intake that goes into the back of the block<

That is also how air is moving out, but how is it getting in without a pcv system ?
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
Leo, I'll take a shot... is he pouring it through the "draft-tube" at the rear of the intake that goes into the back of the block?

GUSTO

P.S. Based on the picture in your temp gauge thread, there is a boss on the front of your intake manifold that can be machined to accept a standard oil fill tube.
Yes, I saw that boss. Will not the Edlebrock 2703 serve my needs, it has the oil filler in the same spot.
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Other options would include removing the distributer or the real slow way would be thru the dipstick tube.
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Yes, I saw that boss. Will not the Edlebrock 2703 serve my needs, it has the oil filler in the same spot.
Yes... it may... It will however require you to change the carb, which may have been in the plans anyway. It may also cause a clearance issue with your '64 hood, so you'll want to check the height compared to the manifold you have.

Good luck... GUSTO
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[QUOTE=GUSTO14;1587446202]Leo, I'll take a shot... is he pouring it through the "draft-tube" at the rear of the intake that goes into the back of the block?



Couldn't previous owner have added oil through the dipstick tube? I'm not saying it's a GOOD idea, but then, putting the engine together without an oil filler and PCV system wasn't a good idea, either.
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I'd probably call the owner and give him a big ole WTF!

The easiest way to fix this is change the valve covers.
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
Yes... it may... It will however require you to change the carb, which may have been in the plans anyway. It may also cause a clearance issue with your '64 hood, so you'll want to check the height compared to the manifold you have.

Good luck... GUSTO
The Edelbrock web page says the 2703 Performer EPS WON"T fit under stock Corvette hoods. No such warning for the 2101 Performer, which also has the provision to add an oil filler tube.
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Originally Posted by SI67
The Edelbrock web page says the 2703 Performer EPS WON"T fit under stock Corvette hoods. No such warning for the 2101 Performer, which also has the provision to add an oil filler tube.
I saw that warning also. I am going to drop the Edlebrock plan and try and buy a stock Manifold for that year (Winters# 3844461) Eventually get the stock carb also (Holly R-2818A / R-2818AAS).
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Originally Posted by Egor01
I saw that warning also. I am going to drop the Edlebrock plan and try and buy a stock Manifold for that year (Winters# 3844461) Eventually get the stock carb also (Holly R-2818A / R-2818AAS).
That's what I'd do.
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I had the boss on my intake drilled out to fit an oil fill tube.

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Please don't shoot me used old set of valve covers.
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Originally Posted by Zoomin
I'd probably call the owner and give him a big ole WTF!

The easiest way to fix this is change the valve covers.
This is what I would do until you can source all your parts and have the down time to make the swap.

You need an operating PCV system ASAP. Get a cheap pair of valve covers for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Zoomin
I'd probably call the owner and give him a big ole WTF!

The easiest way to fix this is change the valve covers.




Or maybe you could install a big "breather" on one of the existing VCs?
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I had the same problem when I bought my 62, it had an Edelbroch performer manifold with a boss where the filler tube should be. I took off the manifold and set it up in the mill and drilled it for a filler tube. Easy process and didn't take long.
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Originally Posted by Egor01
Just bought this car (64 coupe/327) and when I picked it up and looking at the engine, I couldn't believe my eyes. There was no place to add oil. How did the previous owner add oil? I can't spot it in the pictures, can you. I don't want to loose my valve covers, so do I change the intake to an Edlebrock 2703 and tell me if my acceleration linkage is correct, do I have the spring in the right place, ya, I know I need a manual, its on order.
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I met a guy who put a TPI on an engine with the script valve covers, and I asked how he added oil to the engine. He said he removed a valve cover.

I had a Performer 2101 and wanted to run the script valve covers, so I drilled a hole for the fill tube using a hand-held drill and a metal-cutting hole saw. There will be those on this forum that will tell you it can't be done that way, but I did it. Never had a bit of trouble with it.
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