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Old 07-22-2014, 07:56 PM
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Is there a carb that will fit a 60 Vette that not a clearance problem? My stock carb has seen better days. I still want to use my stock intake if I could. And is there a air filter that will work with it? Thanks in advance.
Old 07-22-2014, 09:26 PM
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Why not get it rebuilt
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I went through this with my 61 last year.
Unless you are willing to replace the intake, your options are very limited.

I concur with the above posters.. You can get a professional rebuild (good as new) for about the same cost as a new carb. Not sure where you are located, but in California, a good choice is Chuck Smith (http://www.chucksmithandco.com/)

He did my Carter WCFB:

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I went through this with my 61 last year.
Unless you are willing to replace the intake, your options are very limited.

I concur with the above posters.. You can get a professional rebuild (good as new) for about the same cost as a new carb. Not sure where you are located, but in California, a good choice is Chuck Smith (http://www.chucksmithandco.com/)

He did my Carter WCFB:

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After:

I will but what are the options for new carb and breathers? Will I still have to change intakes if I change carbs?
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no, you will not have to change it. Though, you could change it the intake if you wanted to... Probably easier to rebuild your existing carb.
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I just had a 650 Edelbrock installed on my '58. It was cheaper than having the original rebuild. It also runs better than a rebuilt carb. I kept the original manifold in place. The only thing we have to locate is a Corvette air filter lid. Right now I'm using the Edelbrock lid.

The original goes into a nice box and if someone in the future wants to go NCRS they can.

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You can change it. Now, the lower line I installed is slightly different than the one pictured. I could not get the one in the picture to seat right at the fuel pump so I had to redo the bottom line. It has a better line now so that the filter clears the valve covers and lines up better straight at the filter. The filter is positioned up and down.

Now, for the air cleaner. I took the top of a chrome cheap cleaner and cut a hole out then inverted it. Then added two dimples to clear the top of the carb... No rubbing at all.





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Originally Posted by jimh_1962
You can change it. Now, the lower line I installed is slightly different than the one pictured. I could not get the one in the picture to seat right at the fuel pump so I had to redo the bottom line. It has a better line now so that the filter clears the valve covers and lines up better straight at the filter. The filter is positioned up and down.

Now, for the air cleaner. I took the top of a chrome cheap cleaner and cut a hole out then inverted it. Then added two dimples to clear the top of the carb... No rubbing at all.





Thanks for the reply. Did you have to add a spacer on the stock intake to use an Edelbrock carb?
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No, the intake is an edelbrock. I do have a gasket on it.
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Originally Posted by rfn026

I just had a 650 Edelbrock installed on my '58. It was cheaper than having the original rebuild. It also runs better than a rebuilt carb. I kept the original manifold in place. The only thing we have to locate is a Corvette air filter lid. Right now I'm using the Edelbrock lid.

The original goes into a nice box and if someone in the future wants to go NCRS they can.

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Richard - Can you specify the exact Edelbrock carb model that will bolt right onto a stock WCFB intake?
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I think that the Edelbrock carburetors that are available now are essentially the same as the old Carter AFBs that came on many Corvettes in the mid 60s. They all have larger secondary throttle plates than the primary plates so they will not fit properly on an intake that was set up to be used with the WCFB. WCFBs were used on most late 50s Corvettes

I have used an AFB on my 59 for years with an adapter plate to allow the larger secondaries to open properly with no underhood clearance issues. The plate is about a half an inch thick and made of aluminum. The secondary holes are tapered to allow them to open properly and still mate up with the smaller holes meant for the WCFB in the intake. I know that I bought it at some local auto parts store when I made the changeover but I have no clue who made it.......

I originally made this change in the early 70s to eliminate some of the fuel delivery problems that WCFBs have when autocrossing with the NCCC ............................... When I stopped the autocross competition, I left the set up on the car because I liked the driveablity of the AFB better.

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That matches my understanding as well. Except the WCFB went past the 50's.
61 still used them.
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Originally Posted by SDVette
That matches my understanding as well. Except the WCFB went past the 50's.
61 still used them.
Base 250hp engines used the WCFB through 1965, and nothing else but a WCFB will fit on a WCFB manifold (some passenger cars used a Rochester "4-Jet" on that manifold, but we won't go there).
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Here's my original WCFB. You'll quickly see why it was time to do something. Anything?



Here's the new Edelbrock. Notice the spacer.



I'll have more photos next week.

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Originally Posted by rfn026
Here's my original WCFB. You'll quickly see why it was time to do something. Anything?



Here's the new Edelbrock. Notice the spacer.



I'll have more photos next week.

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I finally got the '58 home. It runs great. I've driven the car maybe 50 miles at this point and I would strongly recommend the Edelbrock swap. It uses all the original linkage and I can keep all the original shielding in place.





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What model carb? does it bolt directly to the wcfb manifold? Just a suggestion, you might want to rethink the rubber hose.
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They had to use a spacer to mount it on the original manifold. I'm not sure of the model number. I know it's a 650 cfm with an electric choke.

I'm not one to worry about rubber fuel lines. The factory used rubber in the rear of the car. They also use rubber on the OEM fuel pump. You need some flex in the system.

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Default Adaptor plate for WCFB to AFB Edelbrock

[i just completed an overhaul of a 340 HP 327 in my 59, and converted to dual quad AFB carbs on my OEM manifold. The adaptor is #2064 available thru www.hedmanperformancegroup.com or maybe at your local speed equipment retailer. It comes with the big base gasket, but you will need to buy or reuse the small base WCFB gasket as we'll.

Richard, does the stock air cleaner base fit over the AFB WITHOUT ANY OBSTRUCTION? the QUOTE=rfn026;1587502020]They had to use a spacer to mount it on the original manifold. I'm not sure of the model number. I know it's a 650 cfm with an electric choke.

I'm not one to worry about rubber fuel lines. The factory used rubber in the rear of the car. They also use rubber on the OEM fuel pump. You need some flex in the system.

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