67 Runs Rough with Ing Shield on
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67 Runs Rough with Ing Shield on
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Took my 67 (327/300) to Mike Bradley Automotive, because the car was not running on all 8 - won't idle at all. When the mechanic removed the ignition/distributor shield, the car ran great! So, he told me, the car needed wires, as he surmised the wires were arcing against something when the shield was in place. A set of wires later, SAME PROBLEM. Shield on, RUNS LIKE CRAP -- UNDRIVEABLE! Shield off, runs like it should. Thoughts?
Took my 67 (327/300) to Mike Bradley Automotive, because the car was not running on all 8 - won't idle at all. When the mechanic removed the ignition/distributor shield, the car ran great! So, he told me, the car needed wires, as he surmised the wires were arcing against something when the shield was in place. A set of wires later, SAME PROBLEM. Shield on, RUNS LIKE CRAP -- UNDRIVEABLE! Shield off, runs like it should. Thoughts?
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Took my 67 (327/300) to Mike Bradley Automotive, because the car was not running on all 8 - won't idle at all. When the mechanic removed the ignition/distributor shield, the car ran great! So, he told me, the car needed wires, as he surmised the wires were arcing against something when the shield was in place. A set of wires later, SAME PROBLEM. Shield on, RUNS LIKE CRAP -- UNDRIVEABLE! Shield off, runs like it should. Thoughts?
Took my 67 (327/300) to Mike Bradley Automotive, because the car was not running on all 8 - won't idle at all. When the mechanic removed the ignition/distributor shield, the car ran great! So, he told me, the car needed wires, as he surmised the wires were arcing against something when the shield was in place. A set of wires later, SAME PROBLEM. Shield on, RUNS LIKE CRAP -- UNDRIVEABLE! Shield off, runs like it should. Thoughts?
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Is it the same cylinder again? If so, Did you check the plug that the wire is attached to? You may have a bad plug causing the high resistance. When did the problem start?
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Does your shielding have the 'plastic' guard attached on the inside where it touches the wires....
scroll to bottom of page...
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....rt~A2~cadefibB
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http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....rt~A2~cadefibB
Last edited by 66jack; 06-11-2014 at 10:42 PM.
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I'd bet the + wire off the side of the coil is shorting to the shielding, or the shielding has cut through the insulation where that wire comes up to the coil.
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Does your shielding have the 'plastic' guard attached on the inside where it touches the wires....
scroll to bottom of page...
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....rt~A2~cadefibB
scroll to bottom of page...
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....rt~A2~cadefibB
Another thing to check is whether the shielding cuts or rubs across one of the lower voltage ignition wires to the coil or the distributor points. This could also cause misfire.
This happened a lot with the fuel injected cars that required a special short distributor cap and 90 degree wire terminals. If the wrong stuff was installed, it also caused shorting and misfire.
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Start it up in a dark room and look for the arc.
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The top shield shorting to the plug wires and the coil wire are common and known problems. The coil wire can have pretty bad results. If it becomes a dead short, you'll smoke your wire harness all the way to the dash.
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I pinched the blk/pk coil wire under my shielding. Smoke instantly bellowed out from under the hood. Within seconds I had the battery disconnected. It burnt the wire all the way back to the starter, along with several other wires. I vote for the dist. cap, or the plastic cover under the shielding.