66BlkBB

Does anyone know where I can buy a starter nose for my unit.

I had the starter rebuilt this last winter and the shop found that the nose was oblonged at the end of the armature and changed it out. They thought it was correct for the car but it is not. I had to grind away a portion of the nose that hit one of the bolts holding the flywheel pan. Then when I tried to install it the diameter of the opening in the flywheel pan is smaller than the diameter of the starte nose. It would not seat. Any help would be appreciaterd. I looked at Ebay and I also checked with LIC. Ebay only has starters and LIC doesn't show anything at all. Thought I'd come here for a possible answer.


Thanks

Ironcross

Is this a cast iron nose?

also staggered bolt too?

66BlkBB

Cast iron. Not sure what the orignal was, whether staggered bolt or not, since they replaced the previous one with what is on there now.

Ironcross

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I know what is supposed to be on it, but a picture would help

DZAUTO

With the exception of the 65 396, all Corvette BB engines (WITH A 4sp) used a hi-torque starter with a CAST IRON nose that had the STAGGERED bolt pattern and used the MEDIUM length bolts.

Now, with that said, if the hole in the nose was oblonged as you say, BUT THE ENLARGEMENT WAS NOT BEYOND THE BUSHING IN THE NOSE, THEN THE BUSHING COULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED. Good starter shops should be quite familiar with replacing the bushing!!!

Ironcross

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adding to the 4 speed sentence above, and also with a T-400 automatic,

and quoting above find a reputable starter alternator shop

Nowhere Man

Power glide as well

66BlkBB

Not sure how a photo would help in this instance. I thought it was kind of odd that they didn't fit a new bushing in the old housing also but they did not. I am thinking that the nose they put on this unit is not for Chevrolet at all but for some other GM product line. Also, I live in a small town with only one shop that does this work. They are good at what they do but I don't think they took into consideration that all GM products used the basic starter but not all had the nose configurations for installation. I am sure that they got rid of my old starter nose by now. I'll check with them again today to explain my problem and see what they come up with.

Is there a part # for the nose that I can look for or order from GM????
I don't think the assembly manual breaks it down that far.

Thanks for the help.

rongold

Here's what the nose (Drive Housing) should look like. I don't have a part number for it, but if nobody posts a part number by the time I get home tonight, I'll post it. I doubt if it's still available from GM, but anything is possible.

Nowhere Man

Seeing how many cars and trucks they fit and if you don't care about numbers and date it should be very easy to find one

corvettekent

Years ago when I changed form a 10.4" clutch to an 11" clutch in my El Camino I went to the auto parts store and bought a "core" starter so I could change the nose on my starter.

DZAUTO

A CAST IRON starter nose with a staggered bolt pattern can be used with ANY 168 teeth flywheel/flexplate (we're only talking stock style GM Delco type starters). BUT, an alum starter nose with the staggered bolt pattern is only compatable with an auto tranny that is used with a 168 teeth flexplate.
The alum, staggered bolt pattern nose is TOO BIG to fit into the starter buige of a big bell housing such as the 444 or 621---------------------------A CAST IRON NOSE MUST BE USED WITH THOSE BELL HOUSINGS!!!

rongold

I have 2 part numbers for the cast iron nose.

1969309

1984098


I doubt if either part number is still good, but anything is possible. If you go to a Chevy dealer, just tell him you need a drive housing for an 1107365 starter.

If you go to a starter rebuilding shop, tell them you need a drive housing for a 3560 starter--that's the industry number for a high torque Chevy starter with the cast iron nose.

DZAUTO

Here is a comparrison of a cast iron(left) nose and an alum nose with staggered bolt patterns.
As can be seen, there are some variations, depending on the manufacturer that made them.






This is an end view. Iron is on the right.

66BlkBB

I've got the shop that rebuilt the starter looking for the original nose. The owner thinks he has it at home. We'll compare the two and see what we have. Both were cast but the one they replaced it with was not like my original. As I said I had to grind away metal to clear a flywheel pan (cover) bolt. Then the diameter of the nose was just to big to fit into my flywheel pan. Is it possible that the application was for another GM product, ie Pontiac, etc. ?

DZAUTO

Pont-Olds have the starter on the other side, thus, their noses are totally different, as seen below.

babbah