How Many Wires Connect To The Back Of 1965 Clock
03-19-2014, 11:54 PM
#1
How Many Wires Connect To The Back Of 1965 Clock
My dealer cut the wire of the plug that connects to the back of the clock in my 65 corvette. I see a bare wire in the opening where I need to remount my clock and want to re-connect the original wire he but but want to know how many wires go to the plug? I know there are two tabs on the rear middle of the clock that have to get connected...just want to make sure I do this correctly so I dojn't short anything out.
03-20-2014, 05:36 AM
#3
Team Owner
Look at the picture I posted in your other post about removing the clock. You have a 12v wire (orange), a ground wire that connects to the black wire in the radio connector, and two bulb sockets (with brown wires). I don't know what "dealer" you have working on it, but find someone else. You need to find a knowledgeable friend to help you with this easy stuff and stay away from people charging you to screw it up.
03-20-2014, 05:56 AM
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Not going to defend the dealer here, but I don't understand taking a 49 year old car to a dealer who can no longer be proficient in working on these cars. They work on different cars, different systems, and have different training today.
If a good Corvette mechanic worked there when these cars were new, he would likely be in the range of 75 years old now. The chances are not good of finding that guy.
But good luck getting it back together. If it is still not solved when I take delivery on my '65, you can call me and I will walk you through it.
If a good Corvette mechanic worked there when these cars were new, he would likely be in the range of 75 years old now. The chances are not good of finding that guy.
But good luck getting it back together. If it is still not solved when I take delivery on my '65, you can call me and I will walk you through it.
03-20-2014, 04:17 PM
#5
Not going to defend the dealer here, but I don't understand taking a 49 year old car to a dealer who can no longer be proficient in working on these cars. They work on different cars, different systems, and have different training today.
If a good Corvette mechanic worked there when these cars were new, he would likely be in the range of 75 years old now. The chances are not good of finding that guy.
But good luck getting it back together. If it is still not solved when I take delivery on my '65, you can call me and I will walk you through it.
If a good Corvette mechanic worked there when these cars were new, he would likely be in the range of 75 years old now. The chances are not good of finding that guy.
But good luck getting it back together. If it is still not solved when I take delivery on my '65, you can call me and I will walk you through it.
03-27-2014, 06:40 PM
#6
Look at the picture I posted in your other post about removing the clock. You have a 12v wire (orange), a ground wire that connects to the black wire in the radio connector, and two bulb sockets (with brown wires). I don't know what "dealer" you have working on it, but find someone else. You need to find a knowledgeable friend to help you with this easy stuff and stay away from people charging you to screw it up.
03-27-2014, 06:43 PM
#7
Look at the picture I posted in your other post about removing the clock. You have a 12v wire (orange), a ground wire that connects to the black wire in the radio connector, and two bulb sockets (with brown wires). I don't know what "dealer" you have working on it, but find someone else. You need to find a knowledgeable friend to help you with this easy stuff and stay away from people charging you to screw it up.
03-27-2014, 07:20 PM
#8
Racer
Brown Wire
The brown wire is hot when the key is on, (ask me how I know)
make sure it doesn't ground on anything. I think there is a brown wire to the radio, but I don't have my wiring diagram with me. But I do remember all the lights that light the dash are gray wires to include the clock.
make sure it doesn't ground on anything. I think there is a brown wire to the radio, but I don't have my wiring diagram with me. But I do remember all the lights that light the dash are gray wires to include the clock.
03-27-2014, 08:08 PM
#9
Tech Contributor
Both wires normally go into the black plastic connector that you are missing.
This photo shows the orange/black wire goes on the top of the "T" and the black wire goes on the leg of the "T".
If you have a brown wire with a female terminal, and it's always hot, then that wire normally goes to a capacitor that mounts behind the dash.
This photo shows the orange/black wire goes on the top of the "T" and the black wire goes on the leg of the "T".
If you have a brown wire with a female terminal, and it's always hot, then that wire normally goes to a capacitor that mounts behind the dash.
03-27-2014, 08:24 PM
#10
Team Owner
Yeah, sorry, I meant gray wires to the bulbs. As Jeff said, you should have a two wire connector for the clock. The orange and black wire is your 12v wire to the clock and is hot all the time. The black wire goes to the lug that is connected to the clock case. The black wire connects electrically to the black wire in the radio connector and then the black wire with the ring in Jeff's picture connects to I believe the Z bar to provide ground for the clock and radio.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
03-27-2014, 08:51 PM
#11
Melting Slicks
Yeah, sorry, I meant gray wires to the bulbs. As Jeff said, you should have a two wire connector for the clock. The orange and black wire is your 12v wire to the clock and is hot all the time. The black wire goes to the lug that is connected to the clock case. The black wire connects electrically to the black wire in the radio connector and then the black wire with the ring in Jeff's picture connects to I believe the Z bar to provide ground for the clock and radio.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
Dave Z
03-27-2014, 09:00 PM
#12
Tech Contributor
Both wires normally go into the black plastic connector that you are missing.
This photo shows the orange/black wire goes on the top of the "T" and the black wire goes on the leg of the "T".
If you have a brown wire with a female terminal, and it's always hot, then that wire normally goes to a capacitor that mounts behind the dash.
This photo shows the orange/black wire goes on the top of the "T" and the black wire goes on the leg of the "T".
If you have a brown wire with a female terminal, and it's always hot, then that wire normally goes to a capacitor that mounts behind the dash.
03-28-2014, 12:14 PM
#13
Yeah, sorry, I meant gray wires to the bulbs. As Jeff said, you should have a two wire connector for the clock. The orange and black wire is your 12v wire to the clock and is hot all the time. The black wire goes to the lug that is connected to the clock case. The black wire connects electrically to the black wire in the radio connector and then the black wire with the ring in Jeff's picture connects to I believe the Z bar to provide ground for the clock and radio.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
I can't think of a brown wire in that area except the one that goes to the turn signal flasher mounted on the radio side panel on the driver's side.
03-28-2014, 12:29 PM
#14
Instructor
Not sure why this guy would not use original wiring, but to leave hot wires exposed like that is crazy, I would be careful taking this car back to him, just mho.
03-28-2014, 12:44 PM
#15
Team Owner
The posts where you're sliding those clips to hold the clock are grounded to the clock case, so if you touch the clips to the spade where the black/orange wire plugs, you short out your 12v for the clock to ground. Did you ever get that battery disconnect switch we discussed earlier. It would have come in handy.
03-28-2014, 06:04 PM
#16
[QUOTE=65GGvert;1586519775]The posts where you're sliding those clips to hold the clock are grounded to the clock case, so if you touch the clips to the spade where the black/orange wire plugs, you short out your 12v for the clock to ground. Did you ever get that battery disconnect switch we discussed earlier. It would have come in handy.[/QUOTE
Clock is still working fine...I think I need to replace a fuse for the courtesy lights on both driver's side and passenger side...prob the same fuse is for the glovebox light as all three bulbs went out when that happened. I looked at my manual and looked with a flashlight at the fuse box but my eyes aren't too good and I can't tell if the fuse is blown or which one controls that. Any help as to which fuse would be appreciated...thanks. I think it's the bottom fuse in the box and it's a 20 amp I see...controls courtesy lamps, and brake lamps.
Clock is still working fine...I think I need to replace a fuse for the courtesy lights on both driver's side and passenger side...prob the same fuse is for the glovebox light as all three bulbs went out when that happened. I looked at my manual and looked with a flashlight at the fuse box but my eyes aren't too good and I can't tell if the fuse is blown or which one controls that. Any help as to which fuse would be appreciated...thanks. I think it's the bottom fuse in the box and it's a 20 amp I see...controls courtesy lamps, and brake lamps.
Last edited by bondguy; 03-28-2014 at 06:16 PM.
03-30-2014, 10:46 AM
#18
I did replace the 20amp fuse on the bottom. No problem and all is good. I disconnected the batter terminal this time, opened up the side panel near glovebox and reached in…put a small piece of electrical tape over the exposed loose wire…also got the other clip for the clock installed…what a hard time I had clipping the clock clip on the other side reaching in from the right side of dash panel…but I finally got it after nearly dropping the clip numerous times. All is good now..thanks for all your help.
03-30-2014, 10:24 PM
#19
Be sure to check this post out before you wire your mid-year clock....
You might want to review a post I made 10 year ago before you do the final wiring hookup for your mid-year clock. If not wired correctly, you can destroy your heater core. Check it out here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...ores-long.html
03-30-2014, 10:45 PM
#20
Team Owner
You might want to review a post I made 10 year ago before you do the final wiring hookup for your mid-year clock. If not wired correctly, you can destroy your heater core. Check it out here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...ores-long.html