C2 Wiper Shaft Seal
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C2 Wiper Shaft Seal
Hi all. After getting caught in a rain storm, I ended up with a good news bad news story. Given it was first time out in the rain since the body off, good news was nothing leaked ( well, only a drop or too). Bad news was I never noticed the passenger wiper arm was not the one on top; and the arm appears to have gotten the little spring tab jammed into the seal, the male rotator quickly machined the serrations on the arm female interior and the wiper took off far to the right over the trim and jammed on the fender top; slapping it a few times before I could shut it off.
The arms had the screw for adjustment but I do not think they were originals, but new repro. Getting my arm removal tool (good money spent) got both off and it looks like both arms were pretty well machined and both seals torn up at the top. OK so I call Paragon and bent over for a pair of new adjustable OE type arms & seals.
The seals on my car were flush up against the arms and both were torn up. Are the slide on shaft seals supposed to go down to the top of the shaft leaving enough gap where the shaft first narrows for the arm to fit onto the male rotator? Wasn't clear in the AIM (to me), most nothing in the shop manual. A pic of a proper install of the seal would be helpful; as well as any tips appreciated.
So soon as the armored car from Paragon delivers the new arms, I can reinstall and try my hand at the adjusting screw thingy with the passenger arm on top. I understand the screw changes the angle of the arm and has nothing to do with the sweep. SO, is it correct to say the sharper angle on the pass side with the blade tip at the centermost of the w/s being higher is the best start point to ensure they dont 'hit'?
Assuming I dont dick this all up and it goes well, the only thing left then is to repair a 4" pretty deep scratch in the top of the fender…grrrr!
Any insights appreciated. Thanks much,
George
The arms had the screw for adjustment but I do not think they were originals, but new repro. Getting my arm removal tool (good money spent) got both off and it looks like both arms were pretty well machined and both seals torn up at the top. OK so I call Paragon and bent over for a pair of new adjustable OE type arms & seals.
The seals on my car were flush up against the arms and both were torn up. Are the slide on shaft seals supposed to go down to the top of the shaft leaving enough gap where the shaft first narrows for the arm to fit onto the male rotator? Wasn't clear in the AIM (to me), most nothing in the shop manual. A pic of a proper install of the seal would be helpful; as well as any tips appreciated.
So soon as the armored car from Paragon delivers the new arms, I can reinstall and try my hand at the adjusting screw thingy with the passenger arm on top. I understand the screw changes the angle of the arm and has nothing to do with the sweep. SO, is it correct to say the sharper angle on the pass side with the blade tip at the centermost of the w/s being higher is the best start point to ensure they dont 'hit'?
Assuming I dont dick this all up and it goes well, the only thing left then is to repair a 4" pretty deep scratch in the top of the fender…grrrr!
Any insights appreciated. Thanks much,
George
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The seals on my car were flush up against the arms and both were torn up. Are the slide on shaft seals supposed to go down to the top of the shaft leaving enough gap where the shaft first narrows for the arm to fit onto the male rotator?
SO, is it correct to say the sharper angle on the pass side with the blade tip at the centermost of the w/s being higher is the best start point to ensure they dont 'hit'?
Any insights appreciated. Thanks much,
George
Run the wiper motor for a cycle and turn it off so it self-parks. Then install the wiper arms on the splined shafts (using the tool), driver's side first, so it ends up aboiut 1/2" - 5/8" above the bright lower reveal molding and parallel to it. The installation on the splines sets the height of the arm, and the adjusting screw sets the angle of the blade relative to the arm. Then install the passenger side arm so it ends up about 3/4" - 1" above the driver's side arm, with the blade parallel to the lower reveal molding.
Then wet the windshield and run the wipers to verify operating clearance and correct parking.
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Pics when I replaced shaft seals. I used John's trick of heating the seals in hot-hot water to get them over the shafts. I positioned them as you can see with the lip just under the serrated shaft end. I laid in a bead of black 3M strip caulk(dum-dum) before I installed them to keep water from getting into the bases and in the cabin.
The last pic is the "before" original seal.
Rich
The last pic is the "before" original seal.
Rich
Last edited by rich5962; 12-10-2013 at 08:49 PM.
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Hi all. After getting caught in a rain storm, I ended up with a good news bad news story. Given it was first time out in the rain since the body off, good news was nothing leaked ( well, only a drop or too). Bad news was I never noticed the passenger wiper arm was not the one on top; and the arm appears to have gotten the little spring tab jammed into the seal, the male rotator quickly machined the serrations on the arm female interior and the wiper took off far to the right over the trim and jammed on the fender top; slapping it a few times before I could shut it off.
The arms had the screw for adjustment but I do not think they were originals, but new repro. Getting my arm removal tool (good money spent) got both off and it looks like both arms were pretty well machined and both seals torn up at the top. OK so I call Paragon and bent over for a pair of new adjustable OE type arms & seals.
The seals on my car were flush up against the arms and both were torn up. Are the slide on shaft seals supposed to go down to the top of the shaft leaving enough gap where the shaft first narrows for the arm to fit onto the male rotator? Wasn't clear in the AIM (to me), most nothing in the shop manual. A pic of a proper install of the seal would be helpful; as well as any tips appreciated.
So soon as the armored car from Paragon delivers the new arms, I can reinstall and try my hand at the adjusting screw thingy with the passenger arm on top. I understand the screw changes the angle of the arm and has nothing to do with the sweep. SO, is it correct to say the sharper angle on the pass side with the blade tip at the centermost of the w/s being higher is the best start point to ensure they dont 'hit'?
Assuming I dont dick this all up and it goes well, the only thing left then is to repair a 4" pretty deep scratch in the top of the fender…grrrr!
Any insights appreciated. Thanks much,
George
The arms had the screw for adjustment but I do not think they were originals, but new repro. Getting my arm removal tool (good money spent) got both off and it looks like both arms were pretty well machined and both seals torn up at the top. OK so I call Paragon and bent over for a pair of new adjustable OE type arms & seals.
The seals on my car were flush up against the arms and both were torn up. Are the slide on shaft seals supposed to go down to the top of the shaft leaving enough gap where the shaft first narrows for the arm to fit onto the male rotator? Wasn't clear in the AIM (to me), most nothing in the shop manual. A pic of a proper install of the seal would be helpful; as well as any tips appreciated.
So soon as the armored car from Paragon delivers the new arms, I can reinstall and try my hand at the adjusting screw thingy with the passenger arm on top. I understand the screw changes the angle of the arm and has nothing to do with the sweep. SO, is it correct to say the sharper angle on the pass side with the blade tip at the centermost of the w/s being higher is the best start point to ensure they dont 'hit'?
Assuming I dont dick this all up and it goes well, the only thing left then is to repair a 4" pretty deep scratch in the top of the fender…grrrr!
Any insights appreciated. Thanks much,
George
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Bad news was I never noticed the passenger wiper arm was not the one on top; and the arm appears to have gotten the little spring tab jammed into the seal, the male rotator quickly machined the serrations on the arm female interior and the wiper took off far to the right over the trim and jammed on the fender top; slapping it a few times before I could shut it off.
Sorry you found out the hard way, but you've probably saved others (like me) from making the same mistake.
Lucky it hardly ever rains here.
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65hihp, Thanks for the observation. Interesting point about seals are not even supposed to be there pre-66, so I assume that is one of the fine point NCRS things…and why I couldn't seem to find anything about the seals in the 64 books.
Since my car is not a candidate for NCRS judging & I already ordered the seals, I reckon I might as well install them.
Yeah, its a 64. I forget sometimes its always a good idea to state the year when soliciting input.
Appreciate it,
George
Since my car is not a candidate for NCRS judging & I already ordered the seals, I reckon I might as well install them.
Yeah, its a 64. I forget sometimes its always a good idea to state the year when soliciting input.
Appreciate it,
George