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-65 Vette runs 193,4MPH on standing mile!

Old 07-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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I want more info on that spoiler. Also, I want one.
Old 07-08-2013, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pop Chevy
Does he have a cage in that monster ???
Couldn't see one in the shop video, but that was pre-spoiler also.
Old 07-08-2013, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pop Chevy
Does he have a cage in that monster ???
No cage, that would be too obvious...
Old 07-08-2013, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by claysmoker
Unless the aero on this car is significantly different from the pics and vids you are showing there is no way we get to your claimed speeds.

The car flies long before that.

The engine sounds nice though.
There's significant amount of time and effort been put into the new aero package for this summer and the neat thing about it, it's all underneath the car, hidden from the curious by standers. Almost 1K hp out of that BIG small block on that record pass...

Here's another neat video about the car. It's a Finnish car show called "virittajat" I guess you could translate it as "gearheads". It's a funny (to Finns) show, hosted by Mika Salo, the Ex-Ferrari F1 driver. He drives different "gearhead" cars, with the owners standing nervously at the pits waiting for their cars to arrive back in piece after M.Salo tests them out. They give them score on performance, looks and Wow-factor. This car won the whole 2nd series, Salo absolutely loved the whole package and this was couple of years ago, with the old engine, suspension and brakes, so it would be cool to see it run once again.



Usually when people start building these cars they set their aim on one particular thing, some like it to be a show stopper, some like it to do well on a 1/4 mile strip, some like it to have a lot of top speed, some just like theirs to be nice cruisers, some might like their cars to be relieble for long journeys. This car does all of that and then some...

You really need to see and hear this car to really appreciate it. Jack Panzica got to see the car and met the owner on his trip to Europe and was well impressed by it.

Very cool car, with cool numbers to back it up.
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Originally Posted by Godholio
I want more info on that spoiler. Also, I want one.
I believe it started out as a off the shelf Ecklers C2 spoiler, which was afterwards widened and lowered some, not much but just enough to make it work. The trick part is underneath the car + the new air intake system, really made a big difference to last years time.
Old 07-08-2013, 02:50 PM
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Here's the car back in 2011, running 11.8 with the old motor. I can't wait to see what he'll do it with the new motor this year.

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Old 07-08-2013, 02:54 PM
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Here's last years video, 179mp/h then with the whole different motor, no real aero mods, besides the front spoiler.

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Old 07-08-2013, 05:59 PM
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Well I don't know about the skeptics in this thread but you convinced me. A really neat car to say the least. Makes the troll comment look a little silly.

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Old 07-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
Well I don't know about the skeptics in this thread but you convinced me. A really neat car to say the least. Makes the troll comment look a little silly.

Bill
Take a good close look at the car in the first post. There's no way in this world that the car pictured there goes 300K per hour. Not on those tires, not with that air dam up front.

That's where the troll comment came from. The OP should post all the facts up front. Then he won't get those comments.

Dave
Old 07-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by claysmoker
4-7 swap.

I'm still not buying the speed.
"Latest for this summer was the Aero package, which is really trick and will only be visible underneath the car,"

Write up states Aero package only visible form underneath car. Sounds like he's figured out how to stop underneath air flow from building up under the hood and causing front end lift. The air dam on the front I'm sure helps some as well as it looks like he has back end of car sitting above rear tires, while nose of car sits down over front tires. Hard to tell from picture if and how much the rear tire's dia may be over front in Standing Mile form. Drag race form, it does have larger dia rear tires to nose front down.

You can easily raise rear of car 3.0" higher than front and still have the body cover the tires the same amount. Just look at stance of Lydia, it's done that way. Lydia's running the same base designed spoiler, except it's been widen 2.0" and ends moved out about 3/4" to center of turn signals. Lydia has not lifting problems at 152 MPH in her 1:1 Gear.

That car has one hell of an engine to overcome the 4.0' x 8.0' sheet of plywood in a huricane aerodynamics of a C2 body to push it to 193.344 MPH.

kph: 311.3 = mph 193.344

First post I saw on car was on digital corvette by member there since 2005.

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=178186

What is the fastest speed you have heard of C2 doing in standing mile? My friend Kimmo in Finland just did 311,3kmh/193,4mph. This is one fast 65. No supercharged. Old school V8 with fuel injection and NOS. His hope was to break 300km/h (186,4mph), but he managed to go little over. I bet Zora never tought C2 could go this fast. Here is pic of the car at Joensuu Airfield where he did his record. So far fastest non-supercharged car here in Finland.
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Was anything besides rocket-powered Bonneville cars doing that kind of speed in the 60s?
Old 07-08-2013, 11:05 PM
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What an amazing Vette. It sounds like the best-developed, most thoroughly sorted Sting Ray ever. Congratulations to the owner and those who helped him. It will be fascinating to learn details of the engine, suspension and aero.
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Not sure what he did underneath the car, i am very curious. Could be mods based on the Ferrari 360 Modena ,and later Enzo that had massive air ducts to evacuate air from under the car and give it negative underbody pressure.

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Old 07-09-2013, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette
so my first concern would be what kind of tires did he use to go almost 200mph?
He uses toyo proxes T1R tires, these have speed rating Y = 186mph

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Please let us know some more details on the powertrain, and especially the suspension and aero package on this car.
Just talked with the man himself, and he said he will be joining us shortly. He will tell you everything more speficly

Originally Posted by claysmoker
4-7 swap.
4-7 and 3-2 swap to be exact. Development engineers at comp cams are very aware of potential this cam has

Originally Posted by claysmoker
Take a good close look at the car in the first post. There's no way in this world that the car pictured there goes 300K per hour. Not on those tires, not with that air dam up front.

Dave
The picture in the first post is taken at the Joensuu airport right after the one mile run.

Originally Posted by AZDoug
Could be mods based on the Ferrari 360 Modena ,and later Enzo that had massive air ducts to evacuate air from under the car and give it negative underbody pressure.

Doug
Bingo, negative underbody pressure is the key word here! With the help of one ex-F1 aerodynamic engineer, one aerospace engineer and countless hours doing research on C6.r and Kimi Raikkonen's F1 lotus underbody Kimmo managed to make the aero packet functional. Underneath panels are pieced together with pop-rivets and hi-strength m4 bolts. After the 193mph pass, the pop rivets were stretch out of shape.

Here is one more video. Stage 1 engine, making 640hp without NOS. After that Kimmo took apart the engine and started to tickle out some power for the stage 2 he's running now
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Thanks to the OP for giving us more, now post up some pics of the bottom of the car.

One last question. Who runs a car with 200 mph potential without a cage?????
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Awesome car! I can't wait to see the enging specs and pics of unside of car. I'd also like to see a pic of the drag strip timing lights with those numbers after the runs, if they use those over there.

I'm a little confused though? Is 193 the top speed of the car in the mile, or the quarter mile? Seems like the ET would have to be in the 7s or less, to get that top in the quarter. Title is a tad confusing to me. Thanks.

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Old 07-09-2013, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by claysmoker
One last question. Who runs a car with 200 mph potential without a cage?????
Boy their tech requirements must be nil...also why in EUROPE are they running MILE races..not kilos????

And like in aviation...give a brick enuf thrust and we'll make it fly

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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon
Awesome car! I can't wait to see the enging specs and pics of unside of car. I'd also like to see a pic of the drag strip timing lights with those numbers after the runs, if they use those over there.

I'm a little confused though? Is 193 the top speed of the car in the mile, or the quarter mile? Seems like the ET would have to be in the 7s or less, to get that top in the quarter. Title is a tad confusing to me. Thanks.
standing mile
Old 07-09-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by claysmoker

One last question. Who runs a car with 200 mph potential without a cage?????
Anyone who doesn't live in a nanny state with greedy lawyers. Brass ***** are optional.
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Very cool! Thanks for sharing...

Cheers,

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