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Old 06-07-2013, 07:54 PM
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Default 60 327 any advantage in increasing radiator cap lb?

Is there any advantage in increasing my 7lb radiator cap to something higher?

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This oughta' be a good one!

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Is your radiator boiling over? If not, then no.
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If the radiator is topped off it has it's usual 1 and 1/2 quart puke after 10-15 minutes of driving, but otherwise no issues.
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Did you think you have over filled the radiator and its just puking until its the right level
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If it ain't broke (or boiling over) don't fix it...
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Ya, whenever I fill it up to the top of the radiator it always pukes out about 1 and 1/2 quarts, the car seems to find its own level, life is good and I drive per normal.

This has always been what it does. I use a 50/50 mixture with distilled water.

In regards to my cap lb question. I wasn't trying to stop the puking but trying to see if was more efficient or better for the engine to increase the boiling point.
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Ya, whenever I fill it up to the top of the radiator it always pukes out about 1 and 1/2 quarts, the car seems to find its own level, life is good and I drive per normal.

This has always been what it does. I use a 50/50 mixture with distilled water.

In regards to my cap lb question. I wasn't trying to stop the puking but trying to see if was more efficient or better for the engine to increase the boiling point.
That distilled water and anti-freeze you're wasting can get kind of expensive.
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That distilled water and anti-freeze you're wasting can get kind of expensive.
thats why I sort of said let it puke until it finds the right level and leave it there
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or put a recovery tank on it and let it 'recover' itself. IF he can keep the radiator a qt or more 'filled' then it would be beneficial to ''filler up' to the top... water in the radiator is a more efficient coolant than air space.
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Originally Posted by stratplus
Is there any advantage in increasing my 7lb radiator cap to something higher?

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No expansion tank.

New Dewitts Direct Fit radiator.
Hi: I've had many cars over the years, but never had one with a 7 lb radiator cap. All have been 13 to 15 lb caps. A higher pressure in the system will raise the boiling point of water. Is your car boiling over? It sounds like it might be if it is kicking out a 1 1/2 quarts of coolant, that sounds like alot. Most radiators without a expansion tank will drop maybe 2 inches. What's the level of fluid left in the radiator after it kicks out 1 1/2 quarts of fluid?

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50/50 w/ 7# boils ~245F
w/14# boils ~265
most guys would panic with either temp
i usually run 14 or 15
but my experimental 4.5#, 4cyl rad in my 61 came with a 7# european cap and at 25% EG, 75% water it should boil at 238F. so if it ever hits 230, my plan is to pull over under a tree somewhere.
3+ years and no problem. This rad has NO PLACE to hook a catch can
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Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
50/50 w/ 7# boils ~245F
w/14# boils ~265
most guys would panic with either temp
i usually run 14 or 15
but my experimental 4.5#, 4cyl rad in my 61 came with a 7# european cap and at 25% EG, 75% water it should boil at 238F. so if it ever hits 230, my plan is to pull over under a tree somewhere.
3+ years and no problem. This rad has NO PLACE to hook a catch can
no overflow/vent line on the radiator?
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The advantage of a higher pressure cap is a higher boiling point of coolant as stated. The disadvantage is if you have a weak rad core and stressing it more. But you have a modern AL rad, so no problem there.

Any system benefits from using a closed system...and if you get a new cap just make sure its for use with a recovery bottle.
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Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
50/50 w/ 7# boils ~245F
w/14# boils ~265
most guys would panic with either temp
i usually run 14 or 15
but my experimental 4.5#, 4cyl rad in my 61 came with a 7# european cap and at 25% EG, 75% water it should boil at 238F. so if it ever hits 230, my plan is to pull over under a tree somewhere.
3+ years and no problem. This rad has NO PLACE to hook a catch can
Very true! I would not let my car get anywhere near those temps.

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no vent line! What it has is several slits around the (screw on) cap mount to direct overflow down. Had i known that, i would NOT of ordered it.
BUT, until it rots out, it is staying in there. it was only $125, can't expect high class for that!
Just bought a 60% LARGER alum rad for my 72 that is really an 89 camaro rad, made in canada and just $89.99. I can't help it, i'm addicted to bargains
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Originally Posted by DSR
What's the level of fluid left in the radiator after it kicks out 1 1/2 quarts of fluid?

Dave
My guess is about 2" down.

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Originally Posted by DSR
Hi: I've had many cars over the years, but never had one with a 7 lb radiator cap. All have been 13 to 15 lb caps. A higher pressure in the system will raise the boiling point of water. Is your car boiling over? It sounds like it might be if it is kicking out a 1 1/2 quarts of coolant, that sounds like alot. Most radiators without a expansion tank will drop maybe 2 inches. What's the level of fluid left in the radiator after it kicks out 1 1/2 quarts of fluid?

Dave
Car runs around 185 degrees. I don't know what the level is after it pukes, I can't see that far down in the neck.
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Originally Posted by stratplus
Car runs around 185 degrees. I don't know what the level is after it pukes, I can't see that far down in the neck.
After the car is up to temp. the air in the radiator should have pushed itself out by the expanding coolant, just as any excess coolant would have if it were completely filled before running.
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Originally Posted by mikem350
The advantage of a higher pressure cap is a higher boiling point of coolant as stated. The disadvantage is if you have a weak rad core and stressing it more. But you have a modern AL rad, so no problem there.

Any system benefits from using a closed system...and if you get a new cap just make sure its for use with a recovery bottle.
Also consider your heater core if you are running one. Is it newer or older. That will have the same system pressure as your radiator.


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