New Signal Switch and Now Horn Doesn't Stop
#1
Instructor
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New Signal Switch and Now Horn Doesn't Stop
So I put in a new signal switch today because my horn would honk intermittently when I would turn and now when I reconnect the battery, it won't stop! Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this? Is it possible I stripped a wire putting it in and how do I check?
I need the trouble shooting for dummies version since I'm not very electrically inclined!
Thanks.
Oh, it's a '65 327/300.
I need the trouble shooting for dummies version since I'm not very electrically inclined!
Thanks.
Oh, it's a '65 327/300.
Last edited by darrahc; 11-23-2012 at 03:27 PM.
#2
Tech Contributor
Clark,
Yes a pinched wire can cause that symptom. Also, the incorrect horn contact (the part held to the hub with three screws) can cause either an intermittent horn, or a persistent horn. If you do not find pinched wires, check your horn contact.
Your 65 and my 65 both have the standard steering column, and I too had persistent horn after replacing the signal switch. I THINK the horn would continue to blow even with the horn contact out, which is what led me to look for a pinched wire. Unfortunately the only way I know to deal with the pinched wire, is to remove the signal switch and identify, repair the insulation breach.
I hope you are still enjoying the car otherwise.
Jeff
Yes a pinched wire can cause that symptom. Also, the incorrect horn contact (the part held to the hub with three screws) can cause either an intermittent horn, or a persistent horn. If you do not find pinched wires, check your horn contact.
Your 65 and my 65 both have the standard steering column, and I too had persistent horn after replacing the signal switch. I THINK the horn would continue to blow even with the horn contact out, which is what led me to look for a pinched wire. Unfortunately the only way I know to deal with the pinched wire, is to remove the signal switch and identify, repair the insulation breach.
I hope you are still enjoying the car otherwise.
Jeff
Last edited by 62Jeff; 11-22-2012 at 12:22 PM.
#3
Instructor
Thread Starter
Jeff - I don't see a pinched wire. Is there a way I can check without having to pull the wires back out? I also did not have horn contact installed. I just plugged in the harness to check if it worked before I put everything back together.
And yes, still loving the car! Thanks and happy Thanksgiving.
And yes, still loving the car! Thanks and happy Thanksgiving.
#4
Tech Contributor
Clark,
I don't know of a way to check, but the reality is your switch and/or wiring is compromised and needs to be pulled out to be repaired.
Others may have better ideas.
Jeff
I don't know of a way to check, but the reality is your switch and/or wiring is compromised and needs to be pulled out to be repaired.
Others may have better ideas.
Jeff
#5
Team Owner
The only wire in the column that will cause the horn to blow is the black wire that is shorted to ground when you press the horn button. It connects to the turn switch harness connector but shouldn't be grounded there. It should split at the connector and go up to where the contact goes in. If you're looking for a short, confine your search to that black wire.
#6
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You must make sure that the upper steering column bearing is completely seated in the housing or the horn will honk continually. I had to sort of pull down on the steering shaft and pre-load the spring down by the rag joint so the bearing would stay seated. Make sure also that the nylon bushings in the horn assy are not loose allowing metal to metal contact.
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If the mechanism is the same as on my '63, I have one more suggestion. Check that the spring under the cap has enough tension to prevent contact (unless you press it) and the ring on the cap is attached all the way around. Mine was coming off in one spot and it messed with my horn.
#8
Team Owner
Except he said the horn blows with the horn contact out.
#10
Smart Azz
Hate to be a smart azz, but......maybe your system was built by Lucas from the UK!
Otherwise, the advice already given makes good sense. I replaced my signal switch on my 67 a while back and I can see how a short can easily occur within the column. On either the connectors and/or a wire where insulation has been pierced.
Otherwise, the advice already given makes good sense. I replaced my signal switch on my 67 a while back and I can see how a short can easily occur within the column. On either the connectors and/or a wire where insulation has been pierced.
#11
Gr8Corvette
You must make sure that the upper steering column bearing is completely seated in the housing or the horn will honk continually. I had to sort of pull down on the steering shaft and pre-load the spring down by the rag joint so the bearing would stay seated. Make sure also that the nylon bushings in the horn assy are not loose allowing metal to metal contact.
#12
Le Mans Master
As a suggestion, I came up with a fix that will prevent this from happening again. Run an extra nut up on each side of the U bolt before before installing the lower support plate so that when you tighten the original supporting nuts from the bottom you can limit the pressure the bottom plate is putting on the wires and avoid pinching them. Will not effect the tightness or support of the column. Pilot Dan
Last edited by Pilot Dan; 11-23-2012 at 12:36 PM.
#13
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Thanks for all the great input guys! As frustrating as it is to do something that seems relatively simple this is why I love my car - always something new to learn. I'll run through the suggestions before ordering a new switch and will post back with what I find.
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