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Old 10-18-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette
STREET car......never!

RACE car..........every weekend
I don't think GM or Ford has a recommended flush interval. What does that tell anyone that asks.

That is for street cars, not race cars!
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette

RACE car..........every weekend
This may be one of the few times, Garrett, when you and I don't see things the same way.

I've always used silicone brake fluid in my race car (and in my bride's track car) and I've never had to go thru the ritualistic pre-race bleeding of the brakes (or changing of fluid).

The only times I've bled the brakes on either car were instances when the systems were opened up for other reasons than pre-race prep..... intervals that are measurable in years.

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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Not to go off topic or on a hijack, but the diaphragm has an accordion section that expands as the fluid level drops. The metal cover has a vent hole to allow the entrance of air.

C2/C3 calipers suffered from leakage problems due to corrosion outside of the pistons seals. As the brake pads wore and the pistons moved to compensate, the seals leaked at the previously corroded spots. If the seals were 'sucking in' moisture, they would also suck in air at the same time.
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i agree to a point. IF you have any rotor runout, then, because the calipers are fixed and not floating, the pistons can suck (pump) in air and moisture.
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Originally Posted by wmf62
never....
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You know Bill, I put in new brakes, calipers , lines, , master cylinder , 8 years ago and have not touched it since.

Put on over 40,000 miles ( 30,000 last 2 years )

Still have lots of pad, no leaks , no soft pedal,

Why fool with it.

I fool with everything else and it just costs me money

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Originally Posted by wmf62
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i agree to a point. IF you have any rotor runout, then, because the calipers are fixed and not floating, the pistons can suck (pump) in air and moisture.
Bill
No disagreement on those points, but we digress.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No disagreement on those points, but we digress.
i'll TRY to stop digressing... ; and just get defensive instead...

i was trying to point out that there are other insidious ways (hoses and diaphragms aside...) to get moisture into the system.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1snake
Change over to DOT 5 and you'll never have to mess with it again.

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I have a 55 Speedster, A 64 Vette and a 70 Chevelle.
The Chevelle was changed to DOT-5 24 years ago and the other two 14 years ago. I have had zero brake problems in these years of use and the Chevelle I drove 65,000 miles in 24 years. In my opinion using regular brake fluid in a collector car equates to the 14th Century Monks wearing hair shirts because they caused more discomfort.
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Originally Posted by 1snake
Change over to DOT 5 and you'll never have to mess with it again.

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Old 10-19-2011, 04:03 AM
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When I bleed my brakes after a repair. Closed system, not much contamination if every things tight.
Old 10-19-2011, 07:20 AM
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When it turns brown (25 years?).
I changed my cars over the summer.
It was the first time in the 17 years I owned the 60.
Suggest doing it more frequently though.
I am interested in seeing other peoples answers to this.
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I remove and replace the fluid in the M/C once a year at oil change time, every other oil change time in the daily drivers.
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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
This may be one of the few times, Garrett, when you and I don't see things the same way.

I've always used silicone brake fluid in my race car (and in my bride's track car) and I've never had to go thru the ritualistic pre-race bleeding of the brakes (or changing of fluid).

The only times I've bled the brakes on either car were instances when the systems were opened up for other reasons than pre-race prep..... intervals that are measurable in years.

Jim
We bleed the calipers every event, with clear fluid there is a color change in the fluid at the calipers, turns slightly yellow after an hour & a half.
Necessary? probably not.
But it's easy to do on the open wheel stuff - 10 minutes for 4 calipers.
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Originally Posted by Bill32
We bleed the calipers every event.....
A lot of racers do, and I'm quick to realize I'm in the minority.

With the ready availability of a brake fluid with very high dry and wet boiling points, and one which has no affinity for moisture (silicone, in case that's not obvious), it seemed to me that bleeding the brakes before every race wasn't actually necessary. But what did I know.... I was a compleat noob at this racing thing.

However, with 6000+ racing miles (combined between our two cars) and no brake fluid issues, I'm sold on silicone fluid for track cars.

Jim
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And where do you guys dispose of all this used brake fluid? It doesn't seem like something I can mix in with my used motor oil.
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Why not?
Originally Posted by 62Jeff
And where do you guys dispose of all this used brake fluid? It doesn't seem like something I can mix in with my used motor oil.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
I don't change mine until something goes wrong. Like a stuck cylinder or caliper. I have some fluid that is 10-12 years old in a few vehicles.
I agree w/his approach; that's what I do too. Its worked that way for me, for over 25 years w/several "old" cars.

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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
A lot of racers do, and I'm quick to realize I'm in the minority.

With the ready availability of a brake fluid with very high dry and wet boiling points, and one which has no affinity for moisture (silicone, in case that's not obvious), it seemed to me that bleeding the brakes before every race wasn't actually necessary. But what did I know.... I was a compleat noob at this racing thing.

However, with 6000+ racing miles (combined between our two cars) and no brake fluid issues, I'm sold on silicone fluid for track cars.

Jim
Yea, agreed Jim on the silicone and high temp for the heavier cars. And bleeding/not bleeding depends on what fluid you're using, what you feel on the track and what you see in the fluid when you do bleed.

I actually only use castrol LMA in the open wheel cars, it does the job.
Temps are lower on the calipers & rotors.
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Originally Posted by csherman
Brake fluid is hydro-scopic - meaning it absorbs moisture.
The proper term is hygroscopic, from the Greek hygros meaning wet or moist.
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Originally Posted by corvetteed
I agree w/his approach; that's what I do too. Its worked that way for me, for over 25 years w/several "old" cars.
I probably should add that even though I don't change the Dot 3,4 until something happens, this is only for daily drivers or at least weekly drivers.

I wouldn't think of doing this on my old cars that sit idle for extended periods without being driven. That's why they have Dot 5 in them but the original poster didn't want to talk about silicone fluid so I didn't bring it up. The cars with Dot 5 in them never have any problem so I don't know how long you could leave that fluid in. Maybe forever?


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