1961 Wiper Coordinator question
03-08-2011, 03:56 PM
#1
Team Owner
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1961 Wiper Coordinator question
I'm installing my wiper coordinator just restored by Tom Maxwell.
Can anybody tell me (who has a properly operating coordinator) if the little 1/2 circle clamp that holds the metal shaft of the coordinator 'locks' it in place. When tightened completely down the shaft of the coordinator is still loose. I don't remember it being that way from before the restoration.
Can anybody tell me (who has a properly operating coordinator) if the little 1/2 circle clamp that holds the metal shaft of the coordinator 'locks' it in place. When tightened completely down the shaft of the coordinator is still loose. I don't remember it being that way from before the restoration.
03-08-2011, 04:05 PM
#2
Safety Car
Frank,
It is supposed to stay loose. When the vacuum is applied to the coordinator via the washer button, it will push the wipers to on for about 4 strokes. It needs to be able to slide in order to turn the wipers on from the switch. As I told you in your ad to buy one, the only thing that the coordinator does is turn the wiper motor on while vacuum is applied to the washer head. You can operate the wiper motor normally with a non functioning coordinator.
Mike
It is supposed to stay loose. When the vacuum is applied to the coordinator via the washer button, it will push the wipers to on for about 4 strokes. It needs to be able to slide in order to turn the wipers on from the switch. As I told you in your ad to buy one, the only thing that the coordinator does is turn the wiper motor on while vacuum is applied to the washer head. You can operate the wiper motor normally with a non functioning coordinator.
Mike
Last edited by mike coletta; 03-08-2011 at 04:15 PM.
03-08-2011, 04:42 PM
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Team Owner
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Duh! Yeah I should have studied it some more before posting....
I DO know the wipers work with a dead coordinator - that's the way I was running them
for the last couple of months... HOPEFULLY, the whole system (washers & wipers) work now as EVERYthing has been rebuilt by either me or Tom...
I DO know the wipers work with a dead coordinator - that's the way I was running them
for the last couple of months... HOPEFULLY, the whole system (washers & wipers) work now as EVERYthing has been rebuilt by either me or Tom...
03-08-2011, 05:33 PM
#4
Team Owner
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Everything is installed and wipers/washers now work just like they did in 1961...which means pretty **** poor...
03-08-2011, 06:29 PM
#5
Le Mans Master
I never noticed
It must have been our younger bodies and butts.
Fortunately or unfortunately, it caught fire in 1969 and I never got to replacing many parts. Lucky me.
Jack
03-08-2011, 08:59 PM
#6
Le Mans Master
It's great to know the washers work, my problem is I hate to use them because all the *&^% that comes off ends up on my nicely waxed paint. Can't win for loosin.......
03-08-2011, 09:04 PM
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Team Owner
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Of course, you know to use RainX - the funky C1 washers and wipers are only worth operating for entertainment value and bragging rights...
03-09-2011, 08:24 AM
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Team Owner
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Actually - once you've screwed around with these systems...most problems are pretty easily fixed NOT including wiper transmission or windshield washer pump rebuilds.
Those are an exercise in patience and medieval masochism...
Those are an exercise in patience and medieval masochism...
03-09-2011, 08:32 AM
#11
Drifting
Frank:
Been toying with the idea of having my entire system done by Tom Maxwell. All of the parts are old and dead except I do have a new tank. What parts did he rebuild? Did you have the switch rebuilt? How long did it take and what's the cost?
Thanks
Steve
Been toying with the idea of having my entire system done by Tom Maxwell. All of the parts are old and dead except I do have a new tank. What parts did he rebuild? Did you have the switch rebuilt? How long did it take and what's the cost?
Thanks
Steve
03-09-2011, 08:39 AM
#12
Team Owner
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To repair the coordinator was about $70...he rebuilt my washer pump but I'd have to find the receipt. I would assume he rebuilds the washer motors and transmissions but can't swear to it. I did my own transmission using restored units from a swap meet. My wiper motor was restored by this guy: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/58-62-CORVETTE-WIPER-MOTOR-RESTORATION-RESTORE-SERVICE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb1b746dfQQ itemZ200550074079QQptZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTr uckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
which included restoring the external finish for $199.
All told the price was probably comparable to the price of an aftermarket wiper arrangement...and most of those don't include a washer system.
I never had the switch rebuilt and I run with a repro vacuum can that came with the vacuum valve already installed on top.
Frankly Steve - if the other parts of my car weren't so original and correct I'd have bolted in a RainGear or some other system and be done with it.
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 03-09-2011 at 08:43 AM.
03-09-2011, 09:02 AM
#13
Drifting
Frank:
I'm not particularly married to the idea of having this system in "working" order since, from what I've read, at it's best, it's still bad. What I would really like to do is to keep everything "stock" looking, yet have some kind of electrically operated pump in the reservoir that is operated by the push button in the switch. Do you know of anyone that makes that kind of retrofit?
I'm not particularly married to the idea of having this system in "working" order since, from what I've read, at it's best, it's still bad. What I would really like to do is to keep everything "stock" looking, yet have some kind of electrically operated pump in the reservoir that is operated by the push button in the switch. Do you know of anyone that makes that kind of retrofit?
03-09-2011, 09:16 AM
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Team Owner
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I did look at some electrically operated, submersible washer pumps a year or so ago. My thought was to stick it in the water tank and run the wiring, invisibly, through a vacuum hose to the dash switch which I would convert to an electrical switch. Nobody I could find made such an arrangement so I would be on my own cobbling something together. In the end I gave it up as it seemed to be as much trouble as fixing the original stuff.
I'll bet if somebody did come up with a 'plug and play', invisible, conversion there would sure be a market for it!
I'll bet if somebody did come up with a 'plug and play', invisible, conversion there would sure be a market for it!
03-09-2011, 10:16 AM
#16
Le Mans Master
I did look at some electrically operated, submersible washer pumps a year or so ago. My thought was to stick it in the water tank and run the wiring, invisibly, through a vacuum hose to the dash switch which I would convert to an electrical switch. Nobody I could find made such an arrangement so I would be on my own cobbling something together. In the end I gave it up as it seemed to be as much trouble as fixing the original stuff.
I'll bet if somebody did come up with a 'plug and play', invisible, conversion there would sure be a market for it!
I'll bet if somebody did come up with a 'plug and play', invisible, conversion there would sure be a market for it!
I just put in the SPW wiper kit and the switch is capable of working washers, which my car did not have anyway. I don't see why you could not use it just like you said. Not sure if when depressed it runs the wipers, or weather you'd have to turn them on and push the washer when you wanted. I have not run the car and still have a lot of the dash apart still. My plan is to clean up the original wiper motor and re-install it. I could even install the cable but would have the switch just tucked up under the dash. No one would know the difference, that is until I actually use them....
03-09-2011, 12:08 PM
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auxilary windsheild wiper washer motor.
All parts retailers carry a add on electric washer pump that install as add on existing wirepng. You use the switch button as previous for "squirt" operation. JC Whitney and others, been around for last 25 years, (*** now chinese) sold for about $10 dollars. hope this helps someone. Regards, Abe G
03-09-2011, 12:30 PM
#18
Racer
It could be worse, remember the old VACUUM operated wipers on some of the pre 55 Chevy's? Step on the gas and they stop in mid stride. Makes us appreciate the electric ones.
03-09-2011, 01:54 PM
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Team Owner
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YES! Vacuum operated wipers on my '55 Buick and they 'stalled' when you hit the gas...JUST when you need them most! Also had a gas pedal operated starter which would sometimes mysteriously start the car by itself...I thought it was haunted!
